The All Overrated Team

[campyfan39]

Respectfully, Campy doesn’t get close to the credit he deserves. Career limited at the beginning by racism as he was pioneer like Jackie. Doby and Campy get no credit for that.
Aside from that, in addition to his great defensive skills, he played 9 full seasons and won mvp 3 of them. That’s 1/3 of his career. Howmany guy have 3 mvps much less in one decade.

Originally Posted by packs

SP - Dizzy Dean - Tim Lincecum before Tim Lincecum
RP - Trevor Hoffman - as beige a career as there is
C - Campanella - sorry, some high highs but some low lows too
1B - Sorry Gil, but still not sure you're a HOFer
2B - Biggio - compiler
SS - Jeter but not through any fault of his own
3B - Paul Molitor - lumped in with third base but played more at DH
OF - Reggie - more strike outs than hits
OF - Kirby Puckett - probably not a popular pick
OF - Duke Snider - not a Willie or a Mickey

[packs]

Originally Posted by campyfan39

Respectfully, Campy doesn’t get close to the credit he deserves. Career limited at the beginning by racism as he was pioneer like Jackie. Doby and Campy get no credit for that.
Aside from that, in addition to his great defensive skills, he played 9 full seasons and won mvp 3 of them. That’s 1/3 of his career. Howmany guy have 3 mvps much less in one decade.

I said I was sorry! His MVPs are what make me think of him as overrated. You hear three time MVP and you can't help but be impressed. But he sprinkled in some bad seasons in 1954, 1956 and his final season in 1957.

A third of his career he was incredible. Another third he wasn't.

[G1911]

In his 9 seasons he played 100 games or more, he was significantly below league average for 3 of them.

He won 3 MVP’s. If one is a fan of WAR, he was not even really close to the most valuable player on his team in any of them. He performs better by the traditional stats but I have a hard time seeing him deserving these 3 MVP’s when looking at the other candidates performance, even though I like Campanella.

Bench has a similar issue with weak seasons mixed among brilliant ones. A lot of catchers do. I rate Berra as the #1 catcher but he doesn’t really deserved his 3 MVP’s either, the voters really liked Yogi and Campy.

He’s a lower tier hall of famer, excellent peak but his excellence was very brief. That everyone is now accounting negro league stats the same as the leagues everyone considered the majors until a couple years ago boosts his career figures somewhat, but I don’t think really changes his general tier but can bump him up a slot or two if all the catchers are ranked in order

Campy’s 52 Bowman is one of my favorite cards. Fellow had some great card poses. His 59 Topps is a special card for non aesthetic reasons. I grew up in Giants country, but having read most of the 50’s dodger hagiography and his teammates comments on him, it kind of hurts to rate him overrated.

[packs]

He really does have some beautiful cards. I've been on the prowl for a really nice Wilson Franks of Campanella for a little while. I've also always been a fan of his 1952 Berk Ross.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by packs

He really does have some beautiful cards. I've been on the prowl for a really nice Wilson Franks of Campanella for a little while. I've also always been a fan of his 1952 Berk Ross.

The Wilson is a great choice. It’s a real shame the objective quality of the Berk Ross cards printing was so low because whoever picked the photos to use did a fantastic job. Campy and Ray Noble have classic catcher poses in it that I just love.

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by G1911

The Wilson is a great choice. It’s a real shame the objective quality of the Berk Ross cards printing was so low because whoever picked the photos to use did a fantastic job. Campy and Ray Noble have classic catcher poses in it that I just love.

Yes, the Barney Stein photo used for the '52 Berk Ross and other cards is a stunner. Here is an article about all of the cards that are based off that photo.
https://www.postwarcards.com/so-many...-same-picture/

I love it so much, I bought one of the original photos by Barney Stein.
https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjzYVow

[G1911]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

Yes, the Barney Stein photo used for the '52 Berk Ross and other cards is a stunner. Here is an article about all of the cards that are based off that photo.
https://www.postwarcards.com/so-many...-same-picture/

I love it so much, I bought one of the original photos by Barney Stein.
https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjzYVow

Great article. This topic may prove dangerous, I only have the 51 Bowman of those.

[campyfan39]

All good my friend!
I just love the guy so admittedly I am biased. I have a Dodger Blue Dodge Charger named Campy for crying out loud!

I think we was loved as he was so friendly and likeable even though he got racism from both sides being half Italian and half Black. His biography is wonderful as he kept his Christian faith despite what happened to him. I wouldn't say he was a great looking guy per se but most of his cards are beautiful.

I love lists and debates like this. Didn't mean to hijack it

Carry on

Originally Posted by packs

I said I was sorry! His MVPs are what make me think of him as overrated. You hear three time MVP and you can't help but be impressed. But he sprinkled in some bad seasons in 1954, 1956 and his final season in 1957.

A third of his career he was incredible. Another third he wasn't.

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