Back Run Bonanza!

[tedzan]

At the 2007 Philly Show in Reading, PA, Toby (bigfish) made my weekend, by selling me this Frank Delahanty DRUM card. Finally, I completed this A - B - C - D run.
I'd been searching for this DRUM for many years. I have yet to see another one, since I acquired this one. Yes, it is a "unique" T206.

On display here is my first AMERICAN BEAUTY - BROAD LEAF - CYCLE - DRUM connection.







TED Z

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[t206kid]

Here are a few of mine!

[Casey2296]

Great run(s) Jay.

[53toppscollector]

Jay, those are awesome.

VCP only has 3 total sales in the last 12 years of the WaJo Drum. A PSA 4 sold in 2019 for $75k. That one is a crossover from a previous SGC 4, I believe. There is also a PSA 1.5 out there missing a corner. Super tough card, hope you can eventually find one to complete your run

[tkd]

So much time and effort into these runs! Incredible!

[ValKehl]

The back runs in this thread are fantastic! I'm really enjoying all the colorful eye candy! But, it is said that variety is the spice of life. So, for variety, here's a black & white back run from the master set of Sam Rice cards that I'm working on. If anyone can help me add to this back run, kindly PM me.

Note: In the last group of cards there are two adjacent cards with blank backs. The first card is readily recognized as a W501 Type 1 because it has "G-4-22" and card number "14" printed on the top border. The second card card is a W501 Type 2, which is identical except for the absence of printing on the top border.

[MVSNYC]

Does a "front run" count?

[Rhotchkiss]

F-ing AWESOME Val!!!

[brass_rat]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

F-ing AWESOME Val!!!

Well said, Ryan!

Awesome Rice and Jennings runs, Val!

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by tedzan

On display here is my first AMERICAN BEAUTY - BROAD LEAF - CYCLE - DRUM connection.

From my experience working on T206 and T205 runs, I gained an appreciation for certain printing patterns of the T205 cards.
Examples of these are....

1st.....American Lithographic printed exactly 32 - T205 subjects with the A - B - C - D connection.

2nd....HINDU cards and DRUM cards are Mutually-Exclusive.

3rd....The A - B - C - D cards and the T205 AMERICAN BEAUTY (Green) cards are Mutually-Exclusive.



Harry Wolter is one of the 32 subjects printed in the A - B - C - D group. I believe this Wolter run is complete with 11 cards.

Therefore, I am still looking for his HONEST LONG CUT back.



V----------------------------------- AMERICAN BEAUTY - BROAD LEAF - CYCLE - DRUM connection (A - B - C - D) -----------------------------------V








Factory #649 ........................... Factory #30


Stay tuned for more T206 and T205 back runs.


TED Z

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[MuncieNolePAZ]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

The back runs in this thread are fantastic! I'm really enjoying all the colorful eye candy! But, it is said that variety is the spice of life. So, for variety, here's a black & white back run from the master set of Sam Rice cards that I'm working on. If anyone can help me add to this back run, kindly PM me.

That is incredible Val! Certainly wish I could help you on that run.

Jay, even though I have saved that picture and seen it several times, it still amazes me each time. I do love collecting WaJo, but would still be amazed regardless.

Chad

[tedzan]

Misplaced post.

[gonzo]

Here's a T205 Bobby Wallace run, including a blank back "with cap" and a "no cap" Polar Bear miscut with another Wallace to the left.

[tedzan]

Ted Breitenstein is my favorite T206 Southern Leaguer card.

He started his Major Lge. career pitching a No-Hitter on October 4, 1891. Although he Walked a batter, the next batter hit into a D-P.
Therefore, in effect, it was a "perfect" game, since he only faced 27 batters.

And near the end of his Major Lge. career, h pitched another No-Hitter.....April 22, 1898.








TED Z

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[ValKehl]

Ryan, Steve and Chad, thanks for the kind words. These back runs were much fun to put together.

[tedzan]

This 1910 COUPON run was a very tough one to complete (and quite expensive). I'd hate to think what it would cost in these days.


Six Super Prints

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Note....the Chance card is now in Ryan's collection.


TED Z

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[tedzan]

Here is one of my favorite T206 runs.

American Lithographic divided the 46 subjects in the 460-only series into 2 print groups. This McGraw was printed in the Exclusive 12 group. Each of the 12 subjects in this group
were printed with 13 different backs. And the 13th card, the UZIT, was a lucky number for me here.










Factory #42.....................Factory #42









TED Z

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[Justus]

Is there a website to look up all known backs of each T206 card?

[tedzan]

Click on this website for a wealth of information (Series breakdown, printing methods, history, etc.) regarding the T206 set......
T206 Reference

Click on this link for Checklists of the T206 cards as a function of their Tobacco Advertising backs......
T206 REFERENCE....convenient access to T206 checklists


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[T3s]

Alas, the band is no longer together.

[Jay Wolt]

Craig that Cobb trio is breathtaking

[ValKehl]

In response to many requests (I wish! ) to see another real-photo, black & white back run, here's my WaJo with the hands-at-chest pose. Surely, someone else has a b & w back run to show.

I'd very much like to add to this back run. Will purchase or trade. Have good stuff to trade, such as T206s of WaJo with scarcer backs (e.g., Am. Beauty, Cycle, Old Mill, Piedmont 42, Sovereign, Tolstoi, etc.) and tough type cards (e.g., G & B Gum, 1910 All Star Base-Ball, D304 Martens, Western Playground, etc.).

[fkm_bky]

That Johnson run is amazing! Thanks for sharing!

Bill

[tedzan]

This OLD MILL card of Hal Chase is my very 1st T206....which I acquired at the Willow Grove Show in March 1981.
Till this day, I still continue collecting Hal Chase cards.






A - B - C - C - D connection





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I acquired this very rare LENOX Chase from a Net54 member in a trade (circa 2011). In recent years, I traded it to Chris Browne.




TED Z

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[tedzan]

And, my Chase "obsession" expands into these subsequent White-Bordered cards (T213-2, T213-3, T214).




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TED Z

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[Casey2296]

Johnson run is incredible Val. Ted, the sheer volume of your runs is amazing.

[MuncieNolePAZ]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

In response to many requests (I wish! ) to see another real-photo, black & white back run, here's my WaJo with the hands-at-chest pose. Surely, someone else has a b & w back run to show.

I'd very much like to add to this back run. Will purchase or trade. Have good stuff to trade, such as T206s of WaJo with scarcer backs (e.g., Am. Beauty, Cycle, Old Mill, Piedmont 42, Sovereign, Tolstoi, etc.) and tough type cards (e.g., G & B Gum, 1910 All Star Base-Ball, D304 Martens, Western Playground, etc.).

Incredible Val!

Chad

[Pat R]

Sorry that you weren't able to get the Uzit Herzog Bill.

Here's my Conroy batting partial back run I'm missing three the Drum, Brown Lenox and PD350-460/25. I just haven't picked up the PD350-460/25 yet a couple of Drums have come up in auctions but they're out of my price range so I probably won't get that or the brown Lenox but I do have a SC350-460/30 "no print".

[IMG][/IMG]

I'm also working on a front run I have 20 of the 29 confirmed Sweet Caporal 350 factory 30's with the large sheet numbers on the bottom.

[IMG][/IMG]

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Johnson run is incredible Val. Ted, the sheer volume of your runs is amazing.

Phil.....Thanks for your complimentary words. I really appreciate them.


TED Z

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[tedzan]

Here is a different type of run which enables us to better understand how American Lithographic printed certain groups of cards.
I refer to them as the "Red Ink Twins". Exactly 47 pairs.....35 subjects in the 350/460 Series plus the EXCLUSIVE 12 subjects
in the 460-only Series. The remaining 34 subjects in the 460-only Series were not printed with these 2 backs.

EXCLUSIVE 12 subjects......

Tannehill was my first pair of T206 "Red Ink Twins" that was acquired many years ago.





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Note.....this display continues into the next two posts, since Net 54 posts are limited to 18 scans.


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[tedzan]

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[tedzan]

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[chriskim]

Originally Posted by fkm_bky

Let's see your active and completed back runs! It's been a while since we've done this and I always love seeing what people are working on...and why.

I've been working on the Herzog Boston backrun for about 2 years now. He and I share the same birthday, and I really like the pose.

Almost all of these were acquired via the BST. The best damn place to buy and sell pre-war cards.

Bill

Impressive Herzog run, Bill!

This guy has a miscut Herzog that you need.

https://youtu.be/pLlwL1qBcPo

[tedzan]

The guys in the 350/460 Series group (35 subjects) are considerably tougher to find with the red HINDU backs, than the Exclusive 12 group.
It is a long-term work in progress. I have a few of them from this Series. This Hal Chase and the Mike Donlin are my "Red Ink Twins" favorites.


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Checklist…...

All 35 subjects have been confirmed with the SWEET CAPORAL 350-460, Factory #42 back in the 350/460 series.

To date, 32 subjects have been confirmed with the red HINDU back in the 350/460 series.

Baker
Bender (no trees)
M. Brown (Chicago)
Chance (portrait-yellow)
Chase (blue)
Chase (dark cap)
Cobb (red portrait)
Davis (A's)
Donlin (bat)
Doolan (bat)
Dougherty (arm in air)
Downey (bat)
Larry Doyle (bat)
Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
Evers (Chicago-yellow sky)
Griffith (bat)
Johnson (pitching)
Joss (pitching)
Kleinow (Boston)
Konetchy (glove low)

Magee (bat)
McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago)
Murphy (batting)
O'Leary (hands on knees)
Rucker (throwing)
Seymour (throwing)
Snodgrass (catching)
Stahl (glove)
Street (fielding)
Sweeney (fielding)
Willis (throwing)
CYoung (glove)

The following 3 subjects have yet to be confirmed with the red HINDU back. I expect all 3 will eventually be discovered.

Ames (hands above head)
Mathewson (dark cap)
Reulbach (no glove)


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[ValKehl]

Bill, Phil and Chad, thanks for your kind words re my hands-at-chest WaJo run. In response to no requests to see another real-photo, black & white back run, here's my WaJo with the throwing pose. I'd love to add a couple to this run!

Note: In the last group of cards there are two adjacent cards with blank backs. One card is readily recognized as a W501 Type 1 because it has "G-4-22" and card number "17" printed on the top border. The other card card is a W501 Type 2, which is identical except for the absence of printing on the top border.

Ted, of all the great cards you've shown in this thread, the card that really knocks my socks off is your T214 of Chase.

[npa589]

Always one of my favorite types of thread - great work everyone.

This is a 6 year old picture, and it's on my list of things to do to redo this and add all of the cards I have added to this grouping - but for now it'll do!

[fkm_bky]

Originally Posted by npa589

Always one of my favorite types of thread - great work everyone.

This is a 6 year old picture, and it's on my list of things to do to redo this and add all of the cards I have added to this grouping - but for now it'll do!

Awesome display Nate! Thanks for sharing!

Bill

[atx840]

They say patience is key in this hobby

Waited ten years to add a new Chase to the run.

[ullmandds]

Awesome run chris!!! Def a waiting game at the latter stages!!

[docpatlv]

Incredible run Chris! How many do you still need?

[fkm_bky]

Congrats Chris! Beautiful card!

Bill

[brass_rat]

Awesome, Chris. Congrats!

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by fkm_bky

Congrats Chris! Beautiful card!

Bill

+1

[Casey2296]

Amazing Run Chris, congrats.

[itjclarke]

Not sure how I missed this thread its first time around, but glad it got bumped. Some amazing stuff here.

I finished my Duffy run a little while back.
T206 Hugh Duffy back run COMPLETE!!.jpg

And Matty is a work in progress... though not sure how much more progress I'll make.
T206 Christy Mathewson back run with T213.jpg

[MuncieNolePAZ]

Originally Posted by atx840

They say patience is key in this hobby

Waited ten years to add a new Chase to the run.

Incredible. Congrats Chris!

Chad

[MuncieNolePAZ]

Added several WaJos to my run since the last time I posted and created a graphic with help from Jamie and Jay.

Thanks
Chad

[Golfcollector]

Originally Posted by Luke

Great thread, love me a good back run! Some amazing cards shown already.

I've started probably 20 different back runs and always ended up buying a tough low pop card I had to have and deciding to sell the common backs from the run.

It's cool to see David R's HOF back run again. I didn't remember your name but your collection stuck in my head and after I knocked out a lot of the rare backs, I decided to copy your idea. This is one back run I think I'll finish. I still have a few to get. There are 37 backs in my run and 36 HOFers in the set. So I'm planning to make one collage that has my best cards and then another one that tries to fit all 36 HOFers in. That is a project for another day that I haven't started trying to figure out yet.

UZIT Crawford......(drooling here in Nebraska.....)

Awesome collection!

[atx840]

Originally Posted by itjclarke

Not sure how I missed this thread its first time around, but glad it got bumped. Some amazing stuff here.

I finished my Duffy run a little while back.

Love the Duffy run! One of my first attempts at a run (EPDG not shown) and interestingly enough I traded the RH to acquire the Chase blue port Lenox.

Just noticed your Cycle 460 & OM are the same cards in my old run

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by atx840

Love the Duffy run! One of my first attempts at a run (EPDG not shown) and interestingly enough I traded the RH to acquire the Chase blue port Lenox.

Just noticed your Cycle 460 & OM are the same cards in my old run

Thanks Chris! Landing that Cycle was probably what started me seriously thinking about completing the run, after I had started it all with an AB, purchased off BST 10+ years ago.

I'm pretty sure I got my Cycle through Sterling, maybe 8-9 years ago(?) Curious, did you consign it there? Regardless, those are some amazing cards/runs you've put together.