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Old 09-16-2022, 05:27 PM
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Thanks. I agree with you now.
Just don't be a punk dude. It'd be a lot different if we were actually having this conversation face to face. You act like I'm 'concealing' or 'hiding' the back. The point of the video was showing both fronts of the card and regardless - I still believe it's a terrible grade.
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Old 09-16-2022, 05:28 PM
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Just don't be a punk dude. It'd be a lot different if we were actually having this conversation face to face. You act like I'm 'concealing' or 'hiding' the back. The point of the video was showing both fronts of the card and regardless - I still believe it's a terrible grade.
Sage advice. I guess we can agree to disagree on a few points. Good luck with it!
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Old 09-16-2022, 05:34 PM
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Sage advice. I guess we can agree to disagree on a few points. Good luck with it!
Thanks - I'm sure you can understand my frustration. We're all fellow collectors and I imagine hoping the best for everyone. You saying 'Way to hide it' is just being an ass - that's all.

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Old 09-16-2022, 05:38 PM
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Thanks - I'm sure you can understand my frustration. We're all fellow collectors and I imagine hoping the best for everyone. You saying 'Way to hide it' is just being an ass - that's all.
I guess we all learned a lesson today.

And hopefully you realize that we like to see both sides to the card if we’re going to express an opinion on the grading and get all hot and bothered with you. Because just based on one side, it’s impossible to tell.
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Old 09-16-2022, 05:40 PM
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I guess we all learned a lesson today.

And hopefully you realize that we like to see both sides to the card if we’re going to express an opinion on the grading and get all hot and bothered with you. Because just based on one side, it’s impossible to tell.
Got it. I agree there. Maybe I'm too used to how grading was way way back as I had many over the years that weren't as penalized for the back. Gotta roll with it I guess. Thanks
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Old 09-16-2022, 05:44 PM
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Got it. I agree there. Maybe I'm too used to how grading was way way back as I had many over the years that weren't as penalized for the back. Gotta roll with it I guess. Thanks
Don’t get me wrong - one of our favorite pastimes around here is getting all hot and bothered with grading companies. You might call it our favorite activity.

But at the same time, we also like to jerk each other around whenever possible.

And if. we’re going to get all pissed off at the grading companies, there are lots of examples for us to use to highlight their incompetence. Rather than just going nuts without seeing the whole item. That way they don’t accuse us of just hating them irrationally…
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Old 09-16-2022, 05:46 PM
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Don’t get me wrong - one of our favorite pastimes around here is getting all hot and bothered with grading companies. You might call it our favorite activity.

But at the same time, we also like to jerk each other around whenever possible.

And if. we’re going to get all pissed off at the grading companies, there are lots of examples for us to use to highlight their incompetence. Rather than just going nuts without seeing the whole item. That way they don’t accuse us of just hating them irrationally…
Ha - ya I got ya...Well - honestly - I've been a bit uptight about the card ever since I got it back yesterday. It's actually good news in a way - finding out it wasn't just randomly badly graded. If it's truly just how it is now - then I'm behind the times and have to realize that a bad back can crush a good card...
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The 1 grade can cover a whole range of problems, from those that render the card a disaster to those that are more technical. Comparing yours to another 1 and saying it looks much better really isn't meaningful in this context. The flawed assumption in your post is that 1s should be roughly equivalent aesthetically so if yours looks much better than another 1, it must be graded wrong. Not so.
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Old 09-16-2022, 05:42 PM
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The 1 grade can cover a whole range of problems, from those that render the card a disaster to those that are more technical. Comparing yours to another 1 and saying it looks much better really isn't meaningful in this context. The flawed assumption in your post is that 1s should be roughly equivalent aesthetically so if yours looks much better than another 1, it must be graded wrong. Not so.
Appreciate that..
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