1933 Uncle Jacks INSANE PSA Grade/Comparison (Video)

[ejharrington]

It's possible that there is some technical flaw with your card (slight paper loss on the back) that would justify the grade. Clearly, your card is better looking overall regardless of grade.

[Pat R]

What You're calling a major hole in the one on ebay looks like an ink spot to me.

[swarmee]

I know you're upset, but if the card has water damage that isn't automatically visible, it is still poor.

[Jws57]

Originally Posted by swarmee

I know you're upset, but if the card has water damage that isn't automatically visible, it is still poor.

It's clearly at the minimum 2-3 grades higher than that 1. It's not an automatic 1 if it's has slight water damage vs. being halfway mangled.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Jws57

It's clearly at the minimum 2-3 grades higher than that 1. It's not an automatic 1 if it's has slight water damage vs. being halfway mangled.

Crack and resubmit!!

Or, time to take it to another grader.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Jws57

It's clearly at the minimum 2-3 grades higher than that 1. It's not an automatic 1 if it's has slight water damage vs. being halfway mangled.

No it isn't. It absolutely can, and looks to, have attributes of a 1. It doesn't matter for value...someone will buy that on aesthetics. It is a great looking coupon but I can see a 1 to 1.5, technically speaking. That's just me though...btw, we never saw the backs either. They can be the reason for low grades sometimes, as we all know.
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[Jws57]

Originally Posted by Leon

No it isn't. It absolutely can, and looks to, have attributes of a 1. It doesn't matter for value...someone will buy that on aesthetics. It is a great looking coupon but I can see a 1 to 1.5, technically speaking. That's just me though...
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Wow. I'm not gonna keep pushing this. But I'm glad everyone is so confident this is a fair grade haa..PSA obviously has everyone still wrapped up. Crazy.
AND definitely has attributes of a 7-8. If you owned the card you'd see the sharp corners and overall good-excellent front.

[Jws57]

You guys think the same thing regarding this batch this guy posted?? Same PSA defense here?

https://www.reddit.com/r/baseballcar..._bag_of_dicks/

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by Jws57

Wow. I'm not gonna keep pushing this. But I'm glad everyone is so confident this is a fair grade haa..PSA obviously has everyone still wrapped up. Crazy.
AND definitely has attributes of a 7-8. If you owned the card you'd see the sharp corners and overall good-excellent front.

I think the issue is that a "1" today encompasses a very large bucket and covers everything from total beaters to items with technical flaws that do not really affect aesthetics. In many regards, old standards were better because a 2-7 meant more and had wider application. If you look at some PSA 5's from the early years, many could not get a 3 today. The problem is not so much PSA today as how PSA's standards and requirements have changed so much over the years.

All that said, Leon is right - aesthetics matter most, especially with an item like yours, which I expect is pretty rare.

[Jws57]

Originally Posted by Pat R

What You're calling a major hole in the one on ebay looks like an ink spot to me.

Good. Point is ?

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by Jws57

Good. Point is ?

Well I guess the point is there is a big difference between a major hole and a factory ink spot.

[Jws57]

Originally Posted by Pat R

Well I guess the point is there is a big difference between a major hole and a factory ink spot.

You can clearly see the notch at the top shares the same exact background as that of what I deem a hole. Doesn't matter going round and round on a forum - it's just blabber at this point. But I'm glad everyone is so happy to defend PSA. It's a joke. Have fun with em !

[bbcemporium]

Originally Posted by Jws57

You can clearly see the notch at the top shares the same exact background as that of what I deem a hole. Doesn't matter going round and round on a forum - it's just blabber at this point. But I'm glad everyone is so happy to defend PSA. It's a joke. Have fun with em !

Can you post a picture of the back of the card?

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by Jws57

You can clearly see the notch at the top shares the same exact background as that of what I deem a hole. Doesn't matter going round and round on a forum - it's just blabber at this point. But I'm glad everyone is so happy to defend PSA. It's a joke. Have fun with em !

It doesn't to me, what you're calling a hole looks like a spot of black ink that's the same color as the ink used to print the coupon.

And I'm not defending PSA but you haven't posted a scan of the back. There can be a big difference in eye appeal on cards with the same grade especially lower grade cards with back damage.

[Jws57]

Originally Posted by ejharrington

It's possible that there is some technical flaw with your card (slight paper loss on the back) that would justify the grade. Clearly, your card is better looking overall regardless of grade.

Mine has a bad back but a 1 is ridiculous. Give me a break.