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Old 09-14-2022, 05:37 PM
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SGC charges $23 per card through their bulk submitters. I shipped out an order of 202 cards. Received on the 6th, graded on the 12th, shipped back to me on the 13th and expected to arrive on the 16th! SGC ALL DAY!
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SGC charges $23 per card through their bulk submitters. I shipped out an order of 202 cards. Received on the 6th, graded on the 12th, shipped back to me on the 13th and expected to arrive on the 16th! SGC ALL DAY!
Good to know, thanks. That's quick work, alright! PSA probably wouldn't have opened up your box yet...
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Good to know, thanks. That's quick work, alright! PSA probably wouldn't have opened up your box yet...
At the bulk submission level, I think PSA is currently estimating 120 day turnaround. And that's estimating. Delivering could be a whole different story.

My own personal approach is to guess at about 6 months, and then if they are done early, I'm just happy it didn't take the full 6 months.
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Old 09-14-2022, 05:56 PM
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Whatever the thinking here, the overall market has spoken and will continue to speak unequivocally. The relative turnarounds don't seem to have much impact.
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I’d go SGC… Especially for pre-1960’s, which seems to make up about half or more of your hypothetical submission.
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SGC charges $23 per card through their bulk submitters. I shipped out an order of 202 cards. Received on the 6th, graded on the 12th, shipped back to me on the 13th and expected to arrive on the 16th! SGC ALL DAY!
Jeff, you and I both know SGC doesn't get the same prices that PSA gets.
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Old 09-14-2022, 06:20 PM
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jeff, you and i both know sgc doesn't get the same prices that psa gets.
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Top three highest sports cards sales were SGC graded.
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SGC without question, 8 days a week.
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SGC charges $23 per card through their bulk submitters. I shipped out an order of 202 cards. Received on the 6th, graded on the 12th, shipped back to me on the 13th and expected to arrive on the 16th! SGC ALL DAY!
Where might one find one of those $23 bulk submitters?
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I'd keep them raw!

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At the time of submission, $12 per card bulk order. Registered mail has not been fun on the turn around.

Examples:

T206https://www.csgcards.com/certlookup/1028469007/

T206https://www.csgcards.com/certlookup/1028469009/

T206https://www.csgcards.com/certlookup/1028469008/

E96https://www.csgcards.com/certlookup/1028469080/

E96https://www.csgcards.com/certlookup/1028469092/

E102https://www.csgcards.com/certlookup/1028469132/
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I will be sending them some cards in the near future. I think they will gain some market share over time. Only time will tell.

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Snowman- great detail, thank you! T205GB- I must disagree wholeheartedly with your comment that PSA is the “only” route for reselling. While the statement is often true for already slabbed cards- which still amazes me- the topic is about submitting cards for grading. The problem with PSA is that you and I could submit the same card to PSA and SGC, let’s say a T206 Jack Bliss with common back. My SGC could come back a “5” while your PSA comes back a “5 MC”, because those idiots declare a T206 “miscut” if a millimeter of the name at bottom is cut off. Of those 2 cards, the SGC resells higher than the PSA. If you can stand the obnoxious wait for PSA then that’s one thing, but they are so poor at grading that the “higher hammer values” mantra now carries an asterisk with it. I own PSAs I bought slabbed, but it’ll be a cold day in Maui before I would let them touch my cards and grade. Trent King
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If they were cards I was keeping, I'd save all that money and time and keep them raw. $2300 to spend on more cards, and all the time used to prep the submission could be put toward further self education to avoid future card issues. It might also end up helping you make some money through new discoveries gleaned from your research. But hey, that's just me.

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I can't believe people still submit to PSA. It's like Stockholm Syndrome.

1) SGC or 2) CSG for me.
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I will be sending them some cards in the near future. I think they will gain some market share over time. Only time will tell.
I LOVE CSG! I've been sending them a lot of my PC stuff lately. The market doesn't give them the respect they deserve yet, but I think that will change. Their slabs are just so much better than everyone else's. And their grades are fair, accurate and consistent in my experience thus far (out of the few hundred cards I've given them).
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It depends entirely on the cards themselves and what the flaws are. While yes, it is true that a PSA 5 almost always outsells the same card in an SGC 5 holder, it is not always the case that the sale card will get a 5 at both PSA and SGC. If you take the time to study the subtle nuances that make them different, you can predict fairly accurately what grades you're likely to get at each one. If I have a card that I'm pretty sure PSA will only give me a 4 on, but SGC is likely to give me a 5, then I'm going with SGC because an SGC 5 will outsell that PSA 4 every time.
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I’m partial to SGC for turnaround times and customer service . If I were solely focused on selling for a profit, then PSA for anything 60’s and newer. For me, those are the only two grading that I will buy right now.
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I just had an SGC returned to me and couldn't be happier. Their grading is the most consistent and they look so much better in SGC slabs. Here is one for example
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First I would not pay to grade anything right now unless it is for the purpose of trading or selling. So if this is stuff that is not going into your PC then my thoughts are as follows:

I prefer the SGC holder. The fast turnaround time is a plus too but I just cannot consider SGC right now for higher grade vintage material from any era. Both PSA and SGC are being tough but much easier selling an under graded PSA card.

If it is mid grade to lower grade material I would go with SGC.

I agree with Snowman however. The merits of the card and how PSA versus SGC will interpret it will have a huge influence on where the card goes. One other thing to consider is if the card being submitted is one that would appeal to set registry collectors than you have to go with PSA.
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