Memory Lane on the brain

[ullmandds]

Auction appears to be iover...seems I did bid higher than anyone else on an item. Did I overpay???????

Observations?

I have some:

-babe ruth items/autographs are still hot...especially autographs on toiletry publications!

-beat up mantle 2nd year topps cards autographed sell for vg unautographed money.

-psa 10 jordan fleer "rookies" have lost 75% of their "appeal" since the peak. I'm shocked!

-Registry set collectory are...still...crazy!!!!

[Donscards]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Auction appears to be iover...seems I did bid higher than anyone else on an item. Did I overpay???????

Observations?

I have some:

-babe ruth items/autographs are still hot...especially autographs on toiletry publications!

-beat up mantle 2nd year topps cards autographed sell for vg unautographed money.

-psa 10 jordan fleer "rookies" have lost 75% of their "appeal" since the peak. I'm shocked!

-Registry set collectory are...still...crazy!!!!

I agree with your quotes---Ruth is certainly hot---Mantle there too---I won one big item--nothing else--prices were strong.

[hcv123]

52 Mantle 2.5 was strong, but thought it might go stronger.

53 Mays was breathtaking, but not surprising

CSG has no "market respect" - 1967 CSG 7.5 Clemente $240 (incl juice), PSA $400-$500, SGC ~$350

The sky is definitely NOT falling, but economic supply/demand factors are definitely leading the market

[GregMitch34]

They had tons of '52 Topps autographed, many also with card itself graded, usually PSA 3 or 4. I have no clue on value and if, say, $400 for a commons or, say, $1000 for a star/HOFer (with auto and card graded) is a bargain of not long term. I have read that autog cards are now "hot" bu really have no idea.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by GregMitch34

They had tons of '52 Topps autographed, many also with card itself graded, usually PSA 3 or 4. I have no clue on value and if, say, $400 for a commons or, say, $1000 for a star/HOFer (with auto and card graded) is a bargain of not long term. I have read that autog cards are now "hot" bu really have no idea.

Hi Greg, that was my set. I have no idea what the value will be in the long term. The HOF cards seemed to be very strong, the difficult commons were average to weak. The sheer saturation of collectors trying to spread funds may have contributed to lower commons pricing

[Kzoo]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Hi Greg, that was my set. I have no idea what the value will be in the long term. The HOF cards seemed to be very strong, the difficult commons were average to weak. The sheer saturation of collectors trying to spread funds may have contributed to lower commons pricing

You had some great signed cards, Ted! I was interested in the signed Wilhelm RC which did over $10k......I know there's not a lot of them out there, but wowzers! Great for you!

[cgjackson222]

In general, it seemed like "highest graded examples" did quite well, but some non-highest graded examples retreated slightly.

E.g. 1955 Topps Ted Williams PSA 9 (highest graded) sold for over $70K, which is almost $50K more than the last one sold in 2020.

1970 Ernie Banks PSA 10 went for $63K, which is more than $10K than one sold by REA in April.

1975 Gary Carter PSA 10 Rookie sold for $56K, which is $8K more than one sold for in a Memory Lane auction in February.

1957 Frank Robinson PSA 9 (highest graded) Rookie sold for $55K, which is more than $10K than the last two sold a month ago in REA and in April via Goldin in May, but not the record of $69K earlier in May via Heritage.

(Hard to believe the highest graded F. Robinson can't outsell Gary Carter)

Even some cards that weren't the highest graded ever, such as the '52 Bowman PSA 8 Mantle and '56 Koufax PSA 9 broke records.

But some that weren't "the highest graded" such as '33 Ruth #144 PSA 4.5, '34 Goudey Gehrig #37 PSA 7, Koufax PSA 8 Rookie and PSA 9 Koufax 2nd year did not break records, but were still much higher than 2 years ago.

All in all, prices continue to be very strong. (Note, I don't have VCP, so I am just using the PSA website, which may be incomplete/inaccurate).

[Snapolit1]

If I had to name one player from the second half of the 20th century who is criminally underappreciated by baseball fans and collectors it would prob be Frank Robinson.

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

In general, it seemed like "highest graded examples" did quite well, but some non-highest graded examples retreated slightly.

E.g. 1955 Topps Ted Williams PSA 9 (highest graded) sold for over $70K, which is almost $50K more than the last one sold in 2020.

1970 Ernie Banks PSA 10 went for $63K, which is more than $10K than one sold by REA in April.

1975 Gary Carter PSA 10 Rookie sold for $56K, which is $8K more than one sold for in a Memory Lane auction in February.

1957 Frank Robinson PSA 9 (highest graded) Rookie sold for $55K, which is more than $10K than the last two sold a month ago in REA and in April via Goldin in May, but not the record of $69K earlier in May via Heritage.

(Hard to believe the highest graded F. Robinson can't outsell Gary Carter)

Even some cards that weren't the highest graded ever, such as the '52 Bowman PSA 8 Mantle and '56 Koufax PSA 9 broke records.

But some that weren't "the highest graded" such as '33 Ruth #144 PSA 4.5, '34 Goudey Gehrig #37 PSA 7, Koufax PSA 8 Rookie and PSA 9 Koufax 2nd year did not break records, but were still much higher than 2 years ago.

All in all, prices continue to be very strong. (Note, I don't have VCP, so I am just using the PSA website, which may be incomplete/inaccurate).

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

If I had to name one player from the second half of the 20th century who is criminally underappreciated by baseball fans and collectors it would prob be Frank Robinson.

Agreed. Frank gets no love.

Also, it doesn't help that there was a weird white thing on his face near his eyebrow on the card.

[Donscards]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

If I had to name one player from the second half of the 20th century who is criminally underappreciated by baseball fans and collectors it would prob be Frank Robinson.

Yes Robinson is underated--he played during the era of Mantle-Mays-Aaron-Clemente--and he just didnt get to those 4 players prices--also played in small market cities and was a low key in his personality .

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

If I had to name one player from the second half of the 20th century who is criminally underappreciated by baseball fans and collectors it would prob be Frank Robinson.

Warren Spahn.

With 363 career wins, Spahn holds the major league record for a left-handed pitcher, and has the most by a pitcher who played his entire career in the post-1920 live-ball era. He was a 17-time All-Star who won 20 games or more in 13 seasons, won the 1957 Cy Young Award, and was a three-time runner-up during the period when only one award was given for both leagues. At the time of his retirement in 1965, Spahn held the MLB record for career strikeouts by a left-handed pitcher. The Warren Spahn Award, given annually to the major leagues' best left-handed pitcher, is named in his honor.

[Exhibitman]

Things I was watching:

--A pair of Jim Brown publicity photos from 1958 and 1963 sold for $2510.40. I collect Jim Brown team-issued and publicity photos and this is a stunning price.

--1921 Exhibit Ruth PSA 4 $27,631.20. Last 4 in PSA's database sold for $21,283 last year. Still going up. Pete is right about Ruth in general. The prices on the obscure Ruth cards are really up there. Most any career-issued Ruth card in halfway decent shape is a $5,000-$10,000+ card now.

--1961 Fleer Wilt Chamberlain IA $1089.60, PSA 7 Bill Russell $3212.40, 1972 Topps Erving RC PSA 8 $3212.40. Vintage basketball in general peaked in 2021 and has come down since then, but the big names are still around 3x what they cost before the surge. Now, that is not really a surprise to long-time collectors because they were so undervalued before that they looked like bargains, relatively speaking. Just a few years ago you could pick up a Dr. J RC in PSA 8 for under $1,000. It peaked at over $9,000 but has settled in at about $3,000-$3500.

--If you want a nice 1950s-1960s Mantle at a modest price, look at Exhibit cards. There were three PSA 6-7 Mantles that went for very reasonable prices $360 $480 $600. Prices on these have gone up relatively modestly.

--