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Old 09-02-2022, 06:46 PM
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The more research I do the more I'm convinced that The T206's were also printed in more than one American Lithograph facility at the same time and probably each facility had different sheet layouts.
The more rabbit holes I go down and track, the more I think you are probably correct and we are going to end up here. It’s going to be very difficult to ever prove it conclusively as it requires not just a sheet or two but a lot of uncut material. I think some other sets were done this way by the AL and it’s affiliates. It explains a lot of the ‘random’ scarcities of front/back combos across the big print run sets and, it really fits with our research last year into the complicated setup and relationships between the AL and its affiliates or independent partners. They had multiple lithographers working together for small print runs of contracted items; why not for huge orders?
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Great work!
The pop reports are useful however pictures would be better. If you had pics/scans of the BL460s you could easily see that some have been crossed over and thus double counted.
Pat is correct there are only two graded Cobb BL460s the ones he provided scans of. I have never seen the one SGC has listed as Authentic.
Ryan is correct there are only two graded Evers BL460s (both graded by PSA now) the one he has that was crossed over from SGC 2 #8175964-002 and the one in the Hill collection.

Pop reports show there are 104 graded BL460s (PSA - 47 and SGC - 57) but in reality less than 100 actual cards are currently graded due to cross over. Obtaining pics should not be that big of a challenge if you have time looking through old auction house listings.
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Old 09-03-2022, 12:14 PM
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BL 460 PSA pops of the 29 subjects, 3 do not have any graded
Baker - 2 (PSA 1.5 and PSA 1)
Brown - 1 (PSA 4.5)
Cobb - 1 (PSA 1MK)
Davis - N/A
Donlin - N/A
Doolan - N/A
Dougherty - 3 (PSA 4, PSA 2.5 and PSA 1)
Downey - 3 (PSA 2, PSA 2 and PSA Auth)
Elberfeld - 3 (PSA 6, PSA 1.5 and PSA 1)
Evers - 2 (PSA 2 and PSA 2)
Griffith - 2 (PSA 1 and PSA Auth)
Johnson - 2 (PSA 4.5 and PSA 3.5)
Joss - 1 (PSA 2.5)
Kleinow - 1 (PSA 2)
Konetchy - 1 (PSA 3)
Magee - 1 (PSA 2.5)
Mathewson - 2 (PSA 3 and PSA Auth)
McIntyre - 3 (PSA 3, PSA 3 and PSA 2.5)
Murphy - 2 (PSA 4 and PSA 4)
O'Leary - 1 (PSA 1.5)
Reulbach - 3 (PSA 3, PSA 3 and PSA 1)
Rucker - 2 (PSA 3 and PSA 2)
Seymour - 1 (PSA 4)
Snodgrass - 2 (PSA 3.5 and PSA Auth)
Stahl - 2 (PSA 2.5 and PSA Auth)
Street - 2 (PSA 3 and PSA 1)
Sweeney - 1 (PSA 2)
Willis - 2 (PSA 3.5 and PSA 2)
Young - 1 (PSA 5.5)
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Graded Evers BL460s (not my cards)
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