1952 Rosen Mantle SGC 9.5 Final Price – Too high, too low, just right?

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

SGC 9 is what my hypothetical was meant to say though. Still the same?

It's an interesting philosophical debate. Would buyers pay slightly less for this card if it were in an SGC 9.0 holder instead of SGC 9.5?

My gut tells me that there is probably a difference. But I'm guessing it might not be as much as we would expect. I wouldn't be surprised if it still got to $10M+ even at SGC 9.0 instead of SGC 9.5.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by raulus

It's an interesting philosophical debate. Would buyers pay slightly less for this card if it were in an SGC 9.0 holder instead of SGC 9.5?

My gut tells me that there is probably a difference. But I'm guessing it might not be as much as we would expect. I wouldn't be surprised if it still got to $10M+ even at SGC 9.0 instead of SGC 9.5.

Maybe but at SGC 9 it probably doesn't get a flip saying it's the best one in the history of the universe. Would that matter?

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Maybe but at SGC 9 it probably doesn't get a flip saying it's the best one in the history of the universe. Would that matter?

Could be! It’s just tied for best in the universe on the SGC pop charts?

So maybe it only goes for $8M?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by raulus

Could be! It’s just tied for best in the universe on the SGC pop charts?

So maybe it only goes for $8M?

I mean who knows but I think that designation had to be worth a couple of million especially if the buyer is investment minded.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I mean who knows but I think that designation had to be worth a couple of million especially if the buyer is investment minded.

I guess part of the question for me is whether the buyer plans to cross it over to PSA. Obviously that takes some real boldness. But if they did, are they assuming it would cross to a PSA 9? And what would a PSA 9 be worth?

But maybe it would cross lower?

But the odds are good that the buyer isn’t planning to do anything more than stick it in the vault at home and wait for it to go up.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by raulus

I guess part of the question for me is whether the buyer plans to cross it over to PSA. Obviously that takes some real boldness. But if they did, are they assuming it would cross to a PSA 9? And what would a PSA 9 be worth?

But maybe it would cross lower?

But the odds are good that the buyer isn’t planning to do anything more than stick it in the vault at home and wait for it to go up.

But then it becomes one of what, 6 PSA 9s along with 3 10s? Kinda loses its claim to fame.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

But then it becomes one of what, 6 PSA 9s along with 3 10s? Kinda loses its claim to fame.

Likely.

I guess I was musing about whether a PSA 9 would be worth $15M or $20M, in which case it might make sense to cross it over. You could still claim that it’s the same card, with the same claim to fame, but now with a PSA flip to add to the flip collection.

Of course, it’s not my card to faff with, and I doubt I would touch it, even it if were mine.

Plus the added benefit that at $15M or $20M, the people who freak about $12M will get that much more excited.

[Republicaninmass]

Mr mint was always known as a man of integrity and his salemanship was free from hyperbole.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I mean who knows but I think that designation had to be worth a couple of million especially if the buyer is investment minded.

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