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Old 08-31-2022, 04:14 PM
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I agree with Leon that W575-1 cards are not hand cut, whereas I believe W501 cards ARE. I strongly suspect that a few of the cards already shown in this thread are actually W501-2 cards, especially Brian's Gowdy card and Dave's WaJo card. A W501-2 card is identical to a W501-1 card except that "G-4-22" and the card number do NOT appear in the top border of the card. Because the TPGs have yet to grasp that there is such a thing as a W501-2 card, the TPGs erroneously identify these as W575-1 cards. In his very informative OC article (Issue #26 - Fall 2022) about the E121 and related issues, Rhett Yeakley described the differences between a W575-1, a W501-1 card, and a W501-2 card, and below are the relevant pages from his article.

I have noticed another way, in addition to those mentioned by Rhett, to distinguish a W501-2 card from a W575-1 card. On a W501-2 card (as well as on a W501-1 card), the rectangular box in which the player is pictured is about 1/16" smaller in both height and width than the rectangular box of a W575-1 card. This size difference is true for the W501 (both versions) and W575-1 cards of the same player in my collection (WaJo & Sam Rice), hence I assume this size difference is true for all W501 and W575-1 cards.
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Seeking very scarce/rare cards for my Sam Rice master collection, e.g., E210 York Caramel Type 2 (upgrade), 1931 W502, W504 (upgrade), W572 sepia, W573, 1922 Haffner's Bread, 1922 Keating Candy, 1922 Witmor Candy Type 2 (vertical back), 1926 Sports Co. of Am. with ad & blank backs. Also 1917 Merchants Bakery & Weil Baking cards of WaJo. Also E222 cards of Lipe, Revelle & Ryan.

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Old 08-31-2022, 08:11 PM
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My only w575-1. Been a psa 2 as long as I’ve owned it.
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Old 08-31-2022, 09:34 PM
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My only w575-1. Been a psa 2 as long as I’ve owned it.
Nice card, Pete, but are you sure it is a W575-1, and not a W501-2? Just asking, as I suspect it's a W501-2.
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That Cobb with the grainy image quality is what i referred to as W501-2 in my article, which i feel is a much better description than lumping them into the W575-1 category.

I can go off at length about these issues if anyone is really interested.
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Thats why I posted as I was unsure. Now I see the border as a give away its w501-2.

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When I got this W501-2 of WaJo on eBay in 2015, a previous owner had already written the card number "17" in pencil in the upper right corner, perhaps after reading Rhett's OC article.
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Funny timing. I just got grades back from a PSA order and they labeled my Lou Gertenrich Max Carey as "e575-1 hand-cut".
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