W575-1 Were Never Hand Cut

[tkd]

I think those are not hand cut in the original post. I also think some w573 varieties are factory cut not hand cut. W502 also appear to be factory cut.

[tkd]

Some cards labeled w575-1 may also be American Caramel blank backs.

[brianp-beme]

After checking my W575-1 cards, it does appear the vast majority are factory cut. The ones that are not are either obviously trimmed, like the Doak example I showed, or are the W501-esque cards that have handcut, like the Danforth I showed, or rough top or bottom borders, like my Gowdy and Dave's Walter Johnson.

I have noticed that the vast majority of the 'official' W501 cards appear to have consistent machine cut left and right borders, while the tops and bottoms quite often are rough/uneven, which would indicate issuance in vertical strips (although I have seen a few rough side borders too). Unfortunately because of the long-standing blanket designation as W575-1 cards that share similarities to the W501 cards, but do not have the numbering or designation on the top, I think the grading companies will likely lump all W575-1 cards as hand cut, because that is how it was handled in the past.

Brian

[ValKehl]

I agree with Leon that W575-1 cards are not hand cut, whereas I believe W501 cards ARE. I strongly suspect that a few of the cards already shown in this thread are actually W501-2 cards, especially Brian's Gowdy card and Dave's WaJo card. A W501-2 card is identical to a W501-1 card except that "G-4-22" and the card number do NOT appear in the top border of the card. Because the TPGs have yet to grasp that there is such a thing as a W501-2 card, the TPGs erroneously identify these as W575-1 cards. In his very informative OC article (Issue #26 - Fall 2022) about the E121 and related issues, Rhett Yeakley described the differences between a W575-1, a W501-1 card, and a W501-2 card, and below are the relevant pages from his article.

I have noticed another way, in addition to those mentioned by Rhett, to distinguish a W501-2 card from a W575-1 card. On a W501-2 card (as well as on a W501-1 card), the rectangular box in which the player is pictured is about 1/16" smaller in both height and width than the rectangular box of a W575-1 card. This size difference is true for the W501 (both versions) and W575-1 cards of the same player in my collection (WaJo & Sam Rice), hence I assume this size difference is true for all W501 and W575-1 cards.

[ullmandds]

My only w575-1. Been a psa 2 as long as I’ve owned it.

[ValKehl]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

My only w575-1. Been a psa 2 as long as I’ve owned it.

Nice card, Pete, but are you sure it is a W575-1, and not a W501-2? Just asking, as I suspect it's a W501-2.

[rhettyeakley]

That Cobb with the grainy image quality is what i referred to as W501-2 in my article, which i feel is a much better description than lumping them into the W575-1 category.

I can go off at length about these issues if anyone is really interested.

[ullmandds]

Thats why I posted as I was unsure. Now I see the border as a give away its w501-2.