Goldschmidt -- HOF chances?

[Mike D.]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Yeah four locks I assume, then I guess Cole and DeGrom might be on track, then I dunno. Can't see Wainwright, Bumgarner seems to have imploded, Lance Lynn eh, who else?

Cole might be get there, but it's a long climb. The two SP's I see with a shot are Sale and DeGrom, and I gotta say Sale's chances are kind of nosediving.

Other than that, there's a couple relievers with a shot, but it's mostly pretty...bleak.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Mike D.

Cole might be get there, but it's a long climb. The two SP's I see with a shot are Sale and DeGrom, and I gotta say Sale's chances are kind of nosediving.

Other than that, there's a couple relievers with a shot, but it's mostly pretty...bleak.

Sale is a tragic story, I just don't see it.

[Mike D.]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Sale is a tragic story, I just don't see it.

Yes, like so many others, he was on the path...then his elbow blew up. And he broke his back. Then he broke his finger trying to catch a comebacker. Then he broke his wrist falling off his bike.

Ouch.

[ronniehatesjazz]

I think he’s in without having 3-4 more years like this. He will have 4 top MVPs. 7x AS, likely an MVP, and probably cross 2,000 hits if he just hobbles around for 3 more mediocre seasons. Also, was one of the dominant power hitters of his era, and actually stole some bases as well. The only way he doesn’t get in is if something tragic happens and he’s out of the league in a year or two or something else off the wall (e.g. PED use). I’d also say if he gets the triple crown this year he could retire immediately after and still get in.

[packs]

I'm wondering why you think that though. I don't feel like Goldschmidt has accomplished all that much in his career other than being an above average player.

I do agree that if he manages to win the Triple Crown this season, that makes him an automatic HOFer just by virtue of the accomplishment. I don't see how you keep a borderline guy out after he wins a Triple Crown.

But without the Triple Crown, the MVP award still makes him look an awful lot like Joey Votto to me, and I don't believe Joey Votto is a HOF player. I don't think he was as good as Todd Helton either and I also don't really see a HOFer in Helton.

[RayBShotz]

I believe he's in.
When the era 2010s and 2020s is looked at retrospectively Goldschmidt will stand out.
RayB

[Elberson]

Goldy is no Harold baines but with 3 to 5 more years, I think he’ll make it

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by RayBShotz

I believe he's in.
When the era 2010s and 2020s is looked at retrospectively Goldschmidt will stand out.
RayB

I'm not convinced of this. Trout, Betts, Harper and Altuve come instantly to mind as players who started the same time or slightly later who are better. I think Arenado is probably better. Machado. I would guess two or more of Soto, Acuna, Tatis, Vlad Jr. and Devers will surpass him. Etc.