Rod Carew "speaking out - to the commissioner"

[Snapolit1]

How come football players from the 1960s and 70s don't whine about how the game is played very differently today than when they played? Never once heard Len Dawson dumping on Patrick Mahomes for the way he plays. ("Mahomes has to learn how to run a real offense. Throwing 50 passes in the Super Bowl is not how you do it. I threw 17! Players today lack the fundamentals.")

How come no one ever complains that football teams have like 19 coaches on the side lines staring at computer data to determine what plans to run? No one bemoans analytics ruining football.

How come football announcers who are former football players don't spend all game shitting on how the game is played today like John Smoltz and many others? People like Romo actaully seem to enjoy watching the game.

How come?

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

How come football players from the 1960s and 70s don't whine about how the game is played very differently today than when they played? Never once heard Len Dawson dumping on Patrick Mahomes for the way he plays. ("Mahomes has to learn how to run a real offense. Throwing 50 passes in the Super Bowl is not how you do it. I threw 17! Players today lack the fundamentals.")

How come no one ever complains that football teams have like 19 coaches on the side lines staring at computer data to determine what plans to run? No one bemoans analytics ruining football.

How come football announcers who are former football players don't spend all game shitting on how the game is played today like John Smoltz and many others? People like Romo actaully seem to enjoy watching the game.

How come?

They do, remember all the jive ass celebrations in the end zone? It was so pathetic they had to pass a rule banning it. Can you imagine, some egotistical wide receiver celebrating in the end zone when his team is down 32-7? Clueless and no class.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

They do, remember all the jive ass celebrations in the end zone? It was so pathetic they had to pass a rule banning it. Can you imagine, some egotistical wide receiver celebrating in the end zone when his team is down 32-7? Clueless and no class.

And they repealed that rule and there have been coordinated group celebrations for years.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Tabe

And they repealed that rule and there have been coordinated group celebrations for years.

Yep, and it's still a pathetic display when your losing by 21 points.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Yep, and it's still a pathetic display when your losing by 21 points.

That I can agree with.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Yep, and it's still a pathetic display when your losing by 21 points.

That’s entirely different than complaining about how basic strategy to play the game has evolved over time.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

That’s entirely different than complaining about how basic strategy to play the game has evolved over time.

It's an entirely different sport, I'm not sure you can compare the two.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

It's an entirely different sport, I'm not sure you can compare the two.

No sport I can think of has to be frozen in time like baseball for some reason.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

How come football players from the 1960s and 70s don't whine about how the game is played very differently today than when they played? Never once heard Len Dawson dumping on Patrick Mahomes for the way he plays. ("Mahomes has to learn how to run a real offense. Throwing 50 passes in the Super Bowl is not how you do it. I threw 17! Players today lack the fundamentals.")

How come no one ever complains that football teams have like 19 coaches on the side lines staring at computer data to determine what plans to run? No one bemoans analytics ruining football.

How come football announcers who are former football players don't spend all game shitting on how the game is played today like John Smoltz and many others? People like Romo actaully seem to enjoy watching the game.

How come?

Mostly 'cuz they are all dead from CTE

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

How come football players from the 1960s and 70s don't whine about how the game is played very differently today than when they played? Never once heard Len Dawson dumping on Patrick Mahomes for the way he plays. ("Mahomes has to learn how to run a real offense. Throwing 50 passes in the Super Bowl is not how you do it. I threw 17! Players today lack the fundamentals.")

How come no one ever complains that football teams have like 19 coaches on the side lines staring at computer data to determine what plans to run? No one bemoans analytics ruining football.

How come football announcers who are former football players don't spend all game shitting on how the game is played today like John Smoltz and many others? People like Romo actaully seem to enjoy watching the game.

How come?

because football is over in less than 3 hours and isn't a complete bore, like watching 15 K's per game. I'd rather watch the grass grow.

Baseball is a game that has been pussified played by injury prone pussies that can't stay on the field. The umpiring is the worst I ever seen and that's with replay. The plays at home plate are non existent runners are always safe unless you can ridiculously swipe tag the bum. The unwillingness to hit against the shift is just Regoddamndiculous.

As someone who has spent 100's of thousands of dollars on season tickets and had the game in my blood for over 50 years...I can't watch a game. AND I certainly wouldn't go for free.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

because football is over in less than 3 hours

False. The average NFL game lasts. 3:12. College games are much longer, sometimes reaching 4 hours.

[HistoricNewspapers]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

How come football players from the 1960s and 70s don't whine about how the game is played very differently today than when they played? Never once heard Len Dawson dumping on Patrick Mahomes for the way he plays. ("Mahomes has to learn how to run a real offense. Throwing 50 passes in the Super Bowl is not how you do it. I threw 17! Players today lack the fundamentals.")

How come no one ever complains that football teams have like 19 coaches on the side lines staring at computer data to determine what plans to run? No one bemoans analytics ruining football.

How come football announcers who are former football players don't spend all game shitting on how the game is played today like John Smoltz and many others? People like Romo actaully seem to enjoy watching the game.

How come?

Yes, and running backs are sharing the load more and more. Workhorses are becoming a thing of the past like Complete Games in pithing in baseball.

Running backs on a team are a committee now except for just the very few top guys. Very few even get drafted very high. They are viewed as interchangeable parts.

There were only SEVEN 1,000 yard rushers in the NFL last year and that was with them adding another game to the schedule.

[G1911]

I see no issue with changing HOW the game is played; new statistical awareness changing how teams try to game the game to leverage their odds at winning. My personal opinion is that the newer 'strikeout or homer' way is boring as compared to small ball, but this is a minority view and it is more efficient with the current ball and parks.

What I am against is changing the rules. Phantom runners on 2nd. Banning the shift because we want to promote more offense and not defense.

So I agree with Carew on some of this and not on the other half.