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Old 08-28-2022, 12:40 AM
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$12,600,000 including buyers' premium.

Actual high bid was $10,500,000 so it definitely is a true $10 million card.

If the final actual bid was, say, $9,000,000 and only broke the $10 million barrier once the buyers' premium was added, would it still be seen as a "legitimate" $10 million card?
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Old 08-28-2022, 01:52 AM
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$12,600,000 including buyers' premium.

Actual high bid was $10,500,000 so it definitely is a true $10 million card.

If the final actual bid was, say, $9,000,000 and only broke the $10 million barrier once the buyers' premium was added, would it still be seen as a "legitimate" $10 million card?
Yes. Buyer’s premium is 1000% part of the price.

Also, I don’t think the stock or crypto market impacted the high-bidder’s ability/desire to buy this card. A 52 Mantle is very different from some Logoman card, and $3mm is much different from 11mm+. The winner, and underbidders, on this card have money completely untied/not related-dependent on the stock or crypto market

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Old 08-28-2022, 04:02 AM
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12 million is a lot of money, but I actually think this price was low. With the backstory and grade, I was thinking it would go for 15-20 mil.
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Old 08-28-2022, 04:14 AM
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12 million is a lot of money, but I actually think this price was low. With the backstory and grade, I was thinking it would go for 15-20 mil.
Many people were thinking the same thing as you. But with over 30 days of bidding and all the press. This is the market value for this card at this time.

An amazing card got an amazing price and set a new Standard.

Wow

It was interesting to watch but sadly no impact on most cards but it did create a buzz about the collection and hopefully it brings new people to collecting
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Let's watch... I think this Mantle got onto a flipper's hand. It will change hand within 3 yrs.
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Old 08-28-2022, 07:19 AM
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This went for a Bargain imo. 10 years down the road this will be a $30 million card. I think this card would’ve sold for more in REA.

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This went for a Bargain imo. 10 years down the road this will be a $30 million card. I think this card would’ve sold for more in REA.
I don't think it would make a diff if it was offered by REA, this Mantle has gotten enough publicity. The next transaction of this card would be as a private deal for sure.
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Let's watch... I think this Mantle got onto a flipper's hand. It will change hand within 3 yrs.

I'm guessing 1 year or less
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I'm guessing 1 year or less
+1. This just smells to me like someone (or ones) putting a lot of money in play to make a lot of quick money.
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$12,600,000 including buyers' premium.

Actual high bid was $10,500,000 so it definitely is a true $10 million card.

If the final actual bid was, say, $9,000,000 and only broke the $10 million barrier once the buyers' premium was added, would it still be seen as a "legitimate" $10 million card?
Let's not forget the sales tax too, unless they are exempt. Whatever was paid by the buyer, out the door, is what the card sold for. Shipping, buyer's premium and sales tax, imo, are all part of the cost.
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To me it depends on who won it and that determined when it will sell next.

I think this will not hit a public auction for a while because at this price point the money is not as important as the prestige or bragging rights of having it.

And if the person was a business man (ie CEO or something) perhaps he shows it off at his office on display and add prestige to his company and Publicity and again not selling it.

I do not think a straight up investor bought this just to flip it

But of course I could be wrong
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To me it depends on who won it and that determined when it will sell next.

I think this will not hit a public auction for a while because at this price point the money is not as important as the prestige or bragging rights of having it.

And if the person was a business man (ie CEO or something) perhaps he shows it off at his office on display and add prestige to his company and Publicity and again not selling it.

I do not think a straight up investor bought this just to flip it

But of course I could be wrong

My sentiments as well, well said.
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if/when this card pops up on the collectable app, or in some chase boxes or contest. Will that count as a flip?
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