SGC grading is super fast.

[ClementeFanOh]

To anyone who cares (I know the target audience is small)-

On August 1, I submitted a small tobacco group to SGC as a test to see if
there are being as hard on those as vintage, and for turnaround time. The
cards arrive tomorrow. The details:

1) T206 Doc Adkins- I guessed a 2, it's coming back a 2. Dead on.

2) E101 Bill Bergen- I guessed 1.5, it's coming back 1.5. Dead on.

3) T206 Harry McIntyre- I guessed 5, it's coming back "A" so there's
something they found that I didn't. Bummer but I'm certainly not
infallible.

4) Total turnaround time 26 days, mailbox to mailbox.

It looks like they don't crucify tobacco like vintage, so much of my
buys will be slabbed in the future (as it's been for awhile). For what
it is worth

Trent King

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by ClementeFanOh

To anyone who cares (I know the target audience is small)-

On August 1, I submitted a small tobacco group to SGC as a test to see if
there are being as hard on those as vintage, and for turnaround time. The
cards arrive tomorrow. The details:

1) T206 Doc Adkins- I guessed a 2, it's coming back a 2. Dead on.

2) E101 Bill Bergen- I guessed 1.5, it's coming back 1.5. Dead on.

3) T206 Harry McIntyre- I guessed 5, it's coming back "A" so there's
something they found that I didn't. Bummer but I'm certainly not
infallible.

4) Total turnaround time 26 days, mailbox to mailbox.

It looks like they don't crucify tobacco like vintage, so much of my
buys will be slabbed in the future (as it's been for awhile). For what
it is worth

Trent King

Thanks for the follow up, Trent. My experience has been on the lower grade cards that actually show obvious wear, flaws, etc that they are spot on. It is on vintage cards that appear NM or better I see them landing in 5s and 6s. If it were a small number I would chalk it up to a small wrinkle, etc but the volume of cards I have been able to pick up and examine inside and outside the holder, simply makes no sense the cards are ending up beaten down like this. In many cases they are 1 or 2 grades higher than cards with fully rounded corners, wrinkles, stains or other obvious flaws.

Hey PSA is doing the same thing right now.

[ClementeFanOh]

Lorewalker- you are welcome. My faith in SGC with prewar remains strong.
You are spot on re: vintage. It's bizarre and, frankly, ridiculous for the 2
main TPGs to continue this "flaw fest", specifically directed at one era. I'm
holding magnificent, raw 1976 Topps HOFers that I wouldn't dream
of submitting to anyone right now. The idea of some nerd finding a 1/16
inch bump on the reverse and dinging the grade 2 full points, doesn't sit
well with me. Both companies need to unscrew themselves in that arena-
before I submit again, at least.

Trent King

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by ClementeFanOh

Lorewalker- you are welcome. My faith in SGC with prewar remains strong.
You are spot on re: vintage. It's bizarre and, frankly, ridiculous for the 2
main TPGs to continue this "flaw fest", specifically directed at one era. I'm
holding magnificent, raw 1976 Topps HOFers that I wouldn't dream
of submitting to anyone right now. The idea of some nerd finding a 1/16
inch bump on the reverse and dinging the grade 2 full points, doesn't sit
well with me. Both companies need to unscrew themselves in that arena-
before I submit again, at least.

Trent King

Could not agree with you more, Trent. Spot on. Dunno what is going on with them but I have more than 1,000 vintage mid to high grade stars and high grade commons 1930s to 1960s to submit but they will sit in my safe until they relent. Not interested in seeing NM cards in EX holders.

Chase