Own a piece of Ty Cobb

[TRC4191]

If any of you would like to read more about Al Stump and his fake Ty Cobb memorabilia, I had an article published by SABR in 2010 on that subject, and later expanded the article into a booklet with the same title. This booklet can be read on line at https://issuu.com/ty_cobb/docs/the_g...storyteller_-2

You can also but a paperback copy of the booklet at the Ty Cobb museum website: https://ty-cobb-museum.myshopify.com/collections/books

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by TRC4191

If any of you would like to read more about Al Stump and his fake Ty Cobb memorabilia, I had an article published by SABR in 2010 on that subject, and later expanded the article into a booklet with the same title. This booklet can be read on line at https://issuu.com/ty_cobb/docs/the_g...storyteller_-2

You can also but a paperback copy of the booklet at the Ty Cobb museum website: https://ty-cobb-museum.myshopify.com/collections/books

Wow. I learned a lot from reading that. It was well written and thought out. The photos and other documents were really good.

Definitely makes this even more suspicious (fyi the dentures were mentioned on page 42 but not any story about it)
So you would have to be suspicious of anything coming from them since other items were faked and frauds. Amazing the diary story and displayed at The Hall of Fame Museum without them doing more due diligence

[G1911]

The only thing weirder than buying a man's dentures is buying fake dentures that weren't even used by that man.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by G1911

The only thing weirder than buying a man's dentures is buying fake dentures that weren't even used by that man.

At least they aren't NFT dentures!

And it looks like Peter Nash wrote the introduction. There isn't a lesser credible person I know of, although some of what he says is probably true. As Mike O'Keefe once told me, to paraphrase, 1/3 is true, 1/3 is false and 1/3 is completely made up. Pick and choose.

That said, I have no reason to believe The Ty Cobb Museum isn't 100% credible.

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[ruth-gehrig]

Hope you have better luck with SCP listening to you than I have had so far in reference to a down right fantasy piece they continue to represent as 1930s.

[ALBB]

I thought in Cooperstown Hall...there was false teeth of a pre war HOF'er..??
or maybe it was his smoking pipe ??

[Yoda]

This thread is a mouthful.

[TRC4191]

Originally Posted by ruth-gehrig

Hope you have better luck with SCP listening to you than I have had so far in reference to a down right fantasy piece they continue to represent as 1930s.

SCP Auctions did modify their description of the dentures to remove reference to Ty Cobb Museum as it requested. But, unlike Goldin Auctions last year, they did not remove the dentures from the auction. Instead, they put up the receipt of loan that the owner got from the Cooperstown Hall of Fame Museum as proof of provenance.

https://catalog.scpauctions.com/TY_C...-LOT52366.aspx

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by ruth-gehrig

Hope you have better luck with SCP listening to you than I have had so far in reference to a down right fantasy piece they continue to represent as 1930s.

Was it one of these perhaps?

https://catalog.scpauctions.com/1939...-LOT51777.aspx

https://catalog.scpauctions.com/PAIR...-LOT52455.aspx

https://catalog.scpauctions.com/1930...-LOT52460.aspx

[jthorst75]

A lot of money for something that wasn't even game used.

[ruth-gehrig]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Was it one of these perhaps?

https://catalog.scpauctions.com/1939...-LOT51777.aspx

https://catalog.scpauctions.com/PAIR...-LOT52455.aspx

https://catalog.scpauctions.com/1930...-LOT52460.aspx

Within a day or two of the auction opening I sent questions on several of the advertising pieces that didnt have dimensions in the listings. I was getting responses within the hour from Dillon Kohler saying he was sorry the sizes weren't posted and he provided them to me on each piece I had inquired about. I checked the fantasy Gehrig Ken Wel piece over the next couple of days to see if they were going to at least let viewers know this is a fantasy piece as opposed to their 1930s notation only. My email to tell Dillon it was not authentic and only a fantasy piece, as opposed to a reproduction(with net54 link where this was discussed) was met with crickets.

Within the last week the wording......
"This sign is often reproduced but this is the ORIGINAL version of a very popular sign featuring the Lou Gehrig model glove."

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by TRC4191

If any of you would like to read more about Al Stump and his fake Ty Cobb memorabilia, I had an article published by SABR in 2010 on that subject, and later expanded the article into a booklet with the same title. This booklet can be read on line at https://issuu.com/ty_cobb/docs/the_g...storyteller_-2

You can also but a paperback copy of the booklet at the Ty Cobb museum website: https://ty-cobb-museum.myshopify.com/collections/books

This was great, thanks!

[hcv123]

Originally Posted by TRC4191

If any of you would like to read more about Al Stump and his fake Ty Cobb memorabilia, I had an article published by SABR in 2010 on that subject, and later expanded the article into a booklet with the same title. This booklet can be read on line at https://issuu.com/ty_cobb/docs/the_g...storyteller_-2

You can also but a paperback copy of the booklet at the Ty Cobb museum website: https://ty-cobb-museum.myshopify.com/collections/books

Just took the time to read the whole book. Incredibly both interesting and disturbing. Also a reminder when enough people start telling the same story, it becomes more credible despite it being at complete odds with the facts (which few people take the time to look for).

SHAME on SCP auctions for not at least pulling the lot till they could research it further and draw their own conclusion. As always $$$ trumps all.

[Howe’s Hunter]

https://www.tmz.com/2022/09/07/ty-co...-hall-of-fame/