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Old 08-25-2022, 06:11 PM
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.... Sweet Caporal ...... Sovereign ......... Piedmont___The "House" that created these Tobacco cards___American Beauty ... COUPON ...…...... UZIT


And, a couple of example 15-card pages from my SOVEREIGN set binder......


Example excerpt of 350 series SOVEREIGN ("apple-green") cards (66 subjects total)




Example excerpt of 460-only series SOVEREIGN cards (46 subjects total)



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Old 08-27-2022, 08:08 AM
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.... Sweet Caporal ...... Sovereign ......... Piedmont___The "House" that created these Tobacco cards___American Beauty ... COUPON ...…...... UZIT


Depicted here is a 15-card sheet from my SWEET CAPORAL, Factory #30 set. The cards in this set are arranged such, that the HOFer's and valuable cards are together.
And the commons in their respective Series follow in the subsequent sheets in the binder. I have only 6 graded cards in this set of 468 subjects.
My pride and joy, Eddie Plank, completes this this set (I consider it "complete" without the Wagner card).

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Old 08-27-2022, 07:01 PM
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Hey guys, any of you interested in smoking a 111 year old American Beauty cigarette

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My AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 (AB 460) sub-set is 99% complete (73 cards of 74). Contrary to my aforementioned three T206 sets, this AB 460 run includes 32
Graded cards (44%). For the most part, the AB 460 cards are very underrated in terms of scarcity. The majority of the 350/460 Series (28) cards range from
being quite tough to very tough to find. Of the AB 460 cards (46) in the 460-only Series, 34 of them are also quite tough to find. In this Series, the easier AB
460 cards to find are the Exclusive 12. Therefore, I will get the AB 460 cards any way I can find them (Graded or Un-Graded).
I am not really opposed to Graded cards. I do prefer Un-graded, because I love to hold the cardboard in my hands; and, I certainly do NOT like spending $25
to $100+ for a piece of plastic (with a #) for a card, whose value is less than the cost for Graded it. It doesn't make any sense to me.


Come on guys, let's hear your opinions on this subject. Take some time for a meaningful discussion and some pictures.....Thanks.


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Old 09-07-2022, 06:12 PM
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.... Sweet Caporal ...... Sovereign ......... Piedmont___The "House" that created these Tobacco cards___American Beauty ... COUPON ...…...... UZIT




In the Fall of 2007, I had completed my All - Sovereign set of 408 subjects. I was confident that I had figured out which T206's were not printed with Sovereign backs.
And, I am happy to say that my extensive research paid off, as my list of SOVEREIGN No-Prints have withstood the test of time.


Here is a sample of some of the 26 cards which still remain Graded (6.4 %) in this set of 408.

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Pardon me (if you don't mind), I'm curious to hear from T206 collectors with near complete sets that are entirely GRADED, how do you store these 400 - 500+ cards ?

Furthermore, how often do you look at your T206's ?


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Hi Ted, it’s been a while. I hope all is well. I can tell you offline where my set is. I can tell you online, I almost never look at the set now that it’s complete and I am no longer upgrading. In fact, as sad as it sounds, I rarely look at any of my actual cards, but I do often look at their images on my phone.
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Old 09-08-2022, 07:30 AM
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Hi Ted, it’s been a while. I hope all is well. I can tell you offline where my set is. I can tell you online, I almost never look at the set now that it’s complete and I am no longer upgrading. In fact, as sad as it sounds, I rarely look at any of my actual cards, but I do often look at their images on my phone.

Hi Ryan

Thanks for responding. I missed you at the National. I was set-up only Tuesday - Thursday. Perhaps, we will see each other at the forthcoming Philly Show in Oaks, Pennsylvania.

You have the quintessential T206 set, plus some really great T206 runs. I really appreciate that. And, I don't mean to be prying.

I'm forever upgrading my sets. Sometimes when someone contacts me looking for certain card(s), I pull the card(s) from my PIEDMONT or SWEET CAPORAL binders (never from
my SOVEREIGN set). Then I eventually replace these card(s).

Take care, my friend.


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Old 09-09-2022, 07:09 PM
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Speaking about an all - T206 SOVEREIGN SET. Besides mine, I know of three other Net54ers who have also completed this set, since I did it back in 2007.
Although, this complete basic set consists of only 402 different subjects, it is not an easy set to complete. Mine is 93.6 % Un-graded. Two of the other sets
that I know of are Graded, and the 3rd set (I think) is partially Graded.

The Six Super-Prints ** were printed with both the SOVEREIGN 350 and SOVEREIGN 460 backs. The Super-Prints 460 back is considerably tougher to find
than the regular 460-only series subjects (46) in the set.

I am happy to call my set complete with 408 cards. Although, I do have about 34 more cards towards a SOVEREIGN master set of 476 cards.

If you are contemplating completing a SOVEREIGN set, this red Cobb with the SOVEREIGN 460 back is a "toughie". It was the last card I needed for my set.


Whatever, the main topic here still remains.....Graded vs Un-graded.....so Show-n-Tell us about your T206 cards (sets).


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** Note......The Six Super-Prints are......





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