Heritage or PWCC?

[raulus]

Since I clearly can't help myself, a few more thoughts that came to mind:

I think there's a lot more randomness to the auction world than we like to admit sometimes. In my experience, it's not uncommon for virtually the same item to close within a few minutes or hours of each other, even on the same auction platform, and for the prices to vary by 10% or more.

Admittedly, all of the "buy the card, not the holder" people will suggest that there were differences in the card, even if the holders were the same. But at the same time, my interpretation is that it's just the natural variation and randomness that comes when you have humans involved in buying illiquid and inherently unique assets.

So the bottom line is that even if you do a lot of research, think you know which auction house will give you the best outcomes, and then execute on it, the results might still not turn out just the way you expect. But hopefully it turns out that the randomness results in a higher price for your item!

[Casey2296]

LOTG & REA have impeccable reputations, plus they're the only two auction houses that, when I called, the owner picked up and took the time to answer any questions I had. That means more to me than squeezing out another 1% on commission. You can trust both Al & Brian to take care of you and your very significant card. Good luck!

[vintagebaseballcardguy]

Sterling Sports Auctions is another good one.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

LOTG & REA have impeccable reputations, plus they're the only two auction houses that, when I called, the owner picked up and took the time to answer any questions I had. That means more to me than squeezing out another 1% on commission. You can trust both Al & Brian to take care of you and your very significant card. Good luck!

There many good auction houses mentioned and LOTG and REA are very good. Most auction houses mentioned have the exposure to a good following of bidders. Your card being an Iconic card will do very well in any. The big factors is where you will net the most.
In the case that you mentioned
Heritage -5% and PWCC -12.5%. That 7.5% back could be big money on your card.
A PSA 3.5 went for 78K in REA on 6/20/22. (the centering is ok left to right but not top to bottom)
for you that would have netted you an extra $5850 if you got the same sale price.

The key is do you think you will get that much more in the Sale price at Heritage to make up for the difference.

Tough call. Heritage is my preferred choice of those two and they do have a huge base of bidders and huge marketing to support and drive awareness.

The commission # makes it a hard choice for me

regardless

Great Card and Good Luck

[mrreality68]

as a quick FYI

I just found a 1952 Mantle on SCP auctions that's an SGC 3.5 with some time left in the auction.

IT is currently at 32K before BP

[raulus]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

as a quick FYI

I just found a 1952 Mantle on SCP auctions that's an SGC 3.5 with some time left in the auction.

IT is currently at 32K before BP

Not to get into a raging debate about the relative merits between SGC and PSA, but PSA 3.5s usually sell for more than SGC 3.5s. Naturally, there will always be some exceptions to the rule, such as the SGC 9.5 1952 Mantle currently at auction with Heritage that I’m sure will top 8 figures. But with 9.5 not being an eligible grade at PSA, I guess we’ll never know how they compare economically.

That and the last day and even the last few hours of most of these auctions can see the price double or triple, or then some… but it will be interesting to see where it lands when the SCP auction is finished.

[Empty77]

My experience as a buyer says that a certain company's exposure is reduced since moving from ebay to independent. The reason is lack of automatic search reminders by email (that ebay provided), and their own bizarre lack of simple email reminders about the start of each auction. I know they run on a set schedule and I could set my own reminder on my phone to check for new items, but the fact is that I miss them every other week (at least) from forgetting they are going on.

If there is a setting on their site for this I haven't found it. And maybe I'm the only one too dumb to figure it out, but even if so, their bidder list is whatever it used to be minus one. If there are others like me, then it is minus more.

They also now have a fast/complex extended bidding process which seems almost impossible to figure out or memorize unless using it often (an option ruled out for me by the aforementioned issue). So for those two problems combined I have decided not to consign there because it seems to me like their system hinders item exposure.

But like others said, this card in particular you're moving is the big one, and so those in the market for it are likely to be motivated to find it anywhere. For more modest items maybe not so much.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Empty77

My experience as a buyer says that a certain company's exposure is reduced since moving from ebay to independent. The reason is lack of automatic search reminders by email (that ebay provided), and their own bizarre lack of simple email reminders about the start of each auction. I know they run on a set schedule and I could set my own reminder on my phone to check for new items, but the fact is that I miss them every other week (at least) from forgetting they are going on.

If there is a setting on their site for this I haven't found it. And maybe I'm the only one too dumb to figure it out, but even if so, their bidder list is whatever it used to be minus one. If there are others like me, then it is minus more.

They also now have a fast/complex extended bidding process which seems almost impossible to figure out or memorize unless using it often (an option ruled out for me by the aforementioned issue). So for those two problems combined I have decided not to consign there because it seems to me like their system hinders item exposure.

But like others said, this card in particular you're moving is the big one, and so those in the market for it are likely to be motivated to find it anywhere. For more modest items maybe not so much.

Agree with your observations. In general, a bidder at that auction site has to be a lot more proactive, and in general I suspect that will lead to fewer bidders and lower prices. Naturally, for premier items, bidders will be happy to invest the time, but for the lower end, I would guess not.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by raulus

Not to get into a raging debate about the relative merits between SGC and PSA, but PSA 3.5s usually sell for more than SGC 3.5s. Naturally, there will always be some exceptions to the rule, such as the SGC 9.5 1952 Mantle currently at auction with Heritage that I’m sure will top 8 figures. But with 9.5 not being an eligible grade at PSA, I guess we’ll never know how they compare economically.

That and the last day and even the last few hours of most of these auctions can see the price double or triple, or then some… but it will be interesting to see where it lands when the SCP auction is finished.

You are 100% right about that and I did not want to get into that it would have over complicated and taken caused an entire separate thread.
THe hard part to me is front eye appeal without seeing the card. Because it was mentioned the Card was well centered. IF it looks real good and the Centering is well centered then the price would jump higher than a PSA 3.5 that is not as well centered.

But again you are correct just trying to help and not over complicate