Is there Interest in an Obscure “Autograph” of an early short lived major leaguer?

[ThomasL]

Toots might be a farewell and not a name as well (short for toodaloo) . IDK it is either written by a guy named "Toots" or a guy named "Hatch". I would assume the person it is address to, Clarence ?" is who he is writing/talking to. It is defiantly one message written by the same person

[ThomasL]

the S is much smaller than the 1909-10 Sacramento S
(this is 1909 team photo)

Still think it's possible "Toots" is around the Salt Lake area and Little Hatch refers to Lake/River to go fishing...looks like it is up a mountain so a natural reaction to wanting to go there would be "like hell I will"

[ThomasL]

Sid Hatch is #1 here with the 1909 LA team (1910 Reach Guide) if anyone would like to try to compare. I will try to find a better photo

[Lucas00]

Originally Posted by ThomasL

the S is much smaller than the 1909-10 Sacramento S

(this is 1909 team photo)



Still think it's possible "Toots" is around the Salt Lake area and Little Hatch refers to Lake/River to go fishing...looks like it is up a mountain so a natural reaction to wanting to go there would be "like hell I will"

I’m not certain that the same person wrote both.
He wouldn’t have signed off best regards, toots. It would’ve just been toots. At least that’s what logic tells me. Also the transition if it was only one person from the main paragraph to the top left doesn’t make sense. And is generally seen as a reply.

I’m in touch with a Sacramento Baseball Historian who was also puzzled by the Small S. And is completely stumped.
To me the large belt shown is more common for the late 19th century and not often seen in the 1910 range. Though using postcard dating techniques it cannot be earlier than 1907 due to the Divided back. He just looks to be playing in the wrong decade to me.

Also there is another Hatch Lake in Washington state with mention of little hatch as well. And even a Hatch Road In Modesto With a nearby River.
Not trying to add more holes but I just see nothing solid yet.

[ThomasL]

The letters all look the same in both parts, capital "T" in Toots and Think are exactly the same for example.

Little info on Sid Hatch (if Baseball ref has the right guy): Born 4-23-1890 Sidney Albert Hatch. He had 3 older brothers and his have a son named Sidney Albert Hatch Jr born in 1918. Here is his WW1 draft card and his signature looks nothing like the writing on this postcard.

[ThomasL]

Looks like Clarence Hobron, and there was a Clarence Roy Hobron (born 1889) living in Modesto around 1910 on into the 1930s looks like

[ThomasL]

Ive seen many old postcard written like this one. Possible I guess that two different people wrote the same person and just used the same postcard, but the handwriting looks exactly the same, so it's also possible the person wrote on it on two different days, with the part signed "Toots" being the 2nd addition added before he finally mailed it.

[ThomasL]

Sid Hatch was at Whitter HS in 1908 he and his brother Bill were very good football players it seems...Bill played at USC as I found an article on him from 1910 getting into trouble for violating his amature status by playing baseball with Sid

not real important to this other than to point out if this postcard/photo is 1900-1908 time frame it is very unlikely to be Sid Hatch