Is there Interest in an Obscure “Autograph” of an early short lived major leaguer?

[ThomasL]

Can you make out the date on the stamp?

[Lucas00]

Originally Posted by ThomasL

Can you make out the date on the stamp?

Like Micheal Said I believe it says Sow Busom so essentially old English for Some steak or a similar cut of meat I assume.

Cannot make out a date unfortunately. Though dating the man's (Hatch's) uniform it would date somewhere between the 1890s to early teens. Hatch played for Sacramento in 1910 so I'm assuming it's 1910 or thereabouts.

Here is Sid Hatch's Brief Resume.
https://www.statscrew.com/minorbaseb...ats/p-07cd17a4

[ThomasL]

It's signed "Toots". It is written by one person and not two different people (Hatch and Toots) as the handwriting is the same throughout. S could also Salt Lake or a host of other places. Not enough info to make a confident judgment as too much info is needed. possible he signed it twice with two different names if his name was "Toots" Hatch I guess

[ThomasL]

Also that does look like a 1909-10 Sacramento Sacts jersey now that I look into it a little more

[ThomasL]

Toots might be a farewell and not a name as well (short for toodaloo) . IDK it is either written by a guy named "Toots" or a guy named "Hatch". I would assume the person it is address to, Clarence ?" is who he is writing/talking to. It is defiantly one message written by the same person

[ThomasL]

the S is much smaller than the 1909-10 Sacramento S
(this is 1909 team photo)

Still think it's possible "Toots" is around the Salt Lake area and Little Hatch refers to Lake/River to go fishing...looks like it is up a mountain so a natural reaction to wanting to go there would be "like hell I will"

[ThomasL]

Sid Hatch is #1 here with the 1909 LA team (1910 Reach Guide) if anyone would like to try to compare. I will try to find a better photo

[Lucas00]

Originally Posted by ThomasL

the S is much smaller than the 1909-10 Sacramento S

(this is 1909 team photo)



Still think it's possible "Toots" is around the Salt Lake area and Little Hatch refers to Lake/River to go fishing...looks like it is up a mountain so a natural reaction to wanting to go there would be "like hell I will"

I’m not certain that the same person wrote both.
He wouldn’t have signed off best regards, toots. It would’ve just been toots. At least that’s what logic tells me. Also the transition if it was only one person from the main paragraph to the top left doesn’t make sense. And is generally seen as a reply.

I’m in touch with a Sacramento Baseball Historian who was also puzzled by the Small S. And is completely stumped.
To me the large belt shown is more common for the late 19th century and not often seen in the 1910 range. Though using postcard dating techniques it cannot be earlier than 1907 due to the Divided back. He just looks to be playing in the wrong decade to me.

Also there is another Hatch Lake in Washington state with mention of little hatch as well. And even a Hatch Road In Modesto With a nearby River.
Not trying to add more holes but I just see nothing solid yet.