19th Century Top 10 Lists...

[TexasLeaguer]

I think Jim Creighton should be considered for for the top 19th century pitchers list. The game was so different when he played that it's difficult to apply sabermetrics to his era.

[Rad_Hazard]

I don’t disagree, but he doesn’t have any recorded stats. The range I used was from 1871-1899, which is as far back as it goes.

[packs]

No Stovey for offense?

[Rad_Hazard]

Originally Posted by packs

No Stovey for offense?

Not in the top 10, Stovey was right around #23 using my sabermetric approach.

[darwinbulldog]

Without breaking it down by category, here are my top 19th century sabermetric guys. Obviously I favor the pitchers, but I think correctly so for the 19th century as the top pitchers were in fact the most dominant and valuable players of the era.

I can't go with a pure "who was best per plate appearance" measure because then I'd have to pick some guy who went like 3 for 3 for his whole career.

1. Kid Nichols
2. Cy Young
3. John Clarkson
4. Tim Keefe
5. Dan Brouthers
6. Roger Connor
7. Cap Anson
8. Jim McCormick
9. Hoss Radbourn
10. Bob Caruthers
11. Amos Rusie
12. Al Spalding
13. Charlie Buffinton
14. Tommy Bond
15. George Davis
16. Ed Delahanty
17. Billy Hamilton
18. Tony Mullane

[Rad_Hazard]

Originally Posted by darwinbulldog

Without breaking it down by category, here are my top 19th century sabermetric guys. Obviously I favor the pitchers, but I think correctly so for the 19th century as the top pitchers were in fact the most dominant and valuable players of the era.

I can't go with a pure "who was best per plate appearance" measure because then I'd have to pick some guy who went like 3 for 3 for his whole career.

1. Kid Nichols
2. Cy Young
3. John Clarkson
4. Tim Keefe
5. Dan Brouthers
6. Roger Connor
7. Cap Anson
8. Jim McCormick
9. Hoss Radbourn
10. Bob Caruthers
11. Amos Rusie
12. Al Spalding
13. Charlie Buffinton
14. Tommy Bond
15. George Davis
16. Ed Delahanty
17. Billy Hamilton
18. Tony Mullane

That's a great list! For mine I used a minimum of 2500 PA's for hitters and 2000 IP for pitchers to eliminate those "3 for 3" guys.