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Old 08-10-2022, 07:08 PM
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thanks for the info
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Old 08-10-2022, 08:21 PM
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James, great post! I look forward to reading more. A couple quick thoughts/replies:

1. I totally agree with your discussion about Hindus being the line, and feel you put them on the right side of the line. They do not compare to Carolina Brights, Broadleafs, and the other rare backs. But they are certainly more rare than the mid-tier backs. I guess they kind of fall in their own place, or maybe get grouped with American Beauty, who is a step above EPDG, Cycle and Tolstoi. Regarding Hindus, I especially love all the portraits and southern leaguers.

2. Great point about the scarce cycle 460 HOFers perhaps throwing off Scot’s 2012 weight. The same scarcity tends to exist for American Beauty, and also with some (not all) Sovereigns. Series 460 can be tough indeed.

3. I like that you point out that not all Sweet Caps are the same. Specifically, series 350 factory 25s can be downright impossible sometimes. I have found 150, 25s can be tougher too (compared to 150, 30)

4. Personally I strongly prefer series 150, when a combo can be found in 150 vs 350 (see Cobb bat on, Wajo portrait, etc). Series 150 is 1909. They are the “OG” t206s. They are the first and the oldest, and I think that is cool.

I look forward to more posts

Here is a mid-tier combo
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Cool article! Nice dive into the recent market on these.

Look forword to your next installment

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Hi All,

The back multipliers at the below link are more current than those in my 2012 piece:

http://www.t206insider.com/store/c1/insider#checklists/

David Hall and I also collaborated on a couple of back scarcity articles which are published on the PSA website.

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Great info here!

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This is a wonderful post, thank you for the information!
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Hi All,

The back multipliers at the below link are more current than those in my 2012 piece:

http://www.t206insider.com/store/c1/insider#checklists/

David Hall and I also collaborated on a couple of back scarcity articles which are published on the PSA website.

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Thanks for this Scot, I must have missed it. I will update my chart accordingly and use those updated numbers in future updates.

Ryan, I agree with your comment about the SC 350/25s....some of them are just impossible. The real shame is that factory numbers were not tracked from the beginning by PSA (and not at all by SGC), so we don't know the true counts, but I think it is clear that the SC 350/30s far out number the 25s in most all cases.
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On a semi-related note, certain brands, often. the "lesser" ones (i.e. not Sweet Cap or Piedmont) have much better image quality. I've always thought that was interesting.
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Here’s a link to one of the back scarcity articles.

https://www.psacard.com/articles/art...ifferent-backs

In terms of pricing, I know that P42 has not held up to the 8X that I originally assigned. It’s more like 4X now. I’m sure some other multipliers have changed for better or worse.

Also, the back multiplier for HOFers is (and always has been) less than advertised—typically about half. So for example if a Ganzel CB sells for 25X a Jimmy Collins CB might sell for 12.5X.

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