Question about new Ebay Authenticity Program???

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I have a Nolan Ryan rookie card graded by SGC. I was thinking of putting it on Ebay. It is mistakenly labeled by SGC as the regular version, when it is in fact the Milton Bradley version. I was thinking of listing it on Ebay as the Milton Bradley version, since that is what it truly is, instead of the mislabeled regular version. Will that throw up a red flag with their Authenticity Program?? I have heard stories about a scenario like mine being a problem.

If you add set break to the title it may avoid the whole stupid program.

[swarmee]

If the card is already graded, supposedly the only thing PSA (eBay's graded card authenticator) is supposed to do is confirm that the case has not been tampered with.
Is it an obvious Milton Bradley? As in, does it have a white stripe on the left side of the card? Or is it less obvious, like the yellow color back and the differing cross-hatch pattern on the front?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by swarmee

If the card is already graded, supposedly the only thing PSA (eBay's graded card authenticator) is supposed to do is confirm that the case has not been tampered with.
Is it an obvious Milton Bradley? As in, does it have a white stripe on the left side of the card? Or is it less obvious, like the yellow color back and the differing cross-hatch pattern on the front?

So if the seller sends a $5 card instead of a $5000 card PSA is not going to step in?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

So if the seller sends a $5 card instead of a $5000 card PSA is not going to step in?

Probably better to ask eBay if you want the correct answer or we can all bash a amazing program meant to help people from getting scammed.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Probably better to ask eBay if you want the correct answer or we can all bash a amazing program meant to help people from getting scammed.

PSA person 1. The auction was for a 33 Goudey Ruth, but it looks like the seller shipped a Barry Larkin rookie.
PSA person 2. That slab is definitely genuine, pack and ship.

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

What an interesting conundrum.

Let's start by assuming your card is worth over $750, which means it would be sent to PSA for review.

Card is in an SGC slab and is incorrectly labeled as regular issue. Let's say the person examining it at PSA agrees that the label is wrong. What on earth happens? SGC isn't a part of this program, so who is now responsible for correcting the error? OP as the seller lists it correctly, so what next? Returned to seller and buyer refunded due to SGC's error which was already pointed out in the listing?

It would be nice if PSA simply slabbed it with the correct information, but I'm not seeing that happening. It's not their fault.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

PSA person 1. The auction was for a 33 Goudey Ruth, but it looks like the seller shipped a Barry Larkin rookie.
PSA person 2. That slab is definitely genuine, pack and ship.

Give it a try and if it works please let me know.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Give it a try and if it works please let me know.

Authenticate THIS.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by swarmee

If the card is already graded, supposedly the only thing PSA (eBay's graded card authenticator) is supposed to do is confirm that the case has not been tampered with.
Is it an obvious Milton Bradley? As in, does it have a white stripe on the left side of the card? Or is it less obvious, like the yellow color back and the differing cross-hatch pattern on the front?

It has the white strip...

[EddieP]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

It has the white strip...

If you’re transparent in the description ( e.g.state SGC listed as Topps but because of the white strip it’s actually a Milton Bradley), you should be fine. But if you want to avoid all this you could do what Peter Spaeth says: write “ Set Break” in the title which bypasses the Authenticity Guarantee program.

[jayshum]

A raw card I recently bought from Greg Morris that had set-break in the listing title went through the authentication process which surprised me. I thought having set-break in the title was one way to avoid it, and I also thought I had seen a while ago that Greg Morris was somehow exempted from the authentication process. Apparently not anymore if they ever were.

[CardPadre]

Originally Posted by jayshum

A raw card I recently bought from Greg Morris that had set-break in the listing title went through the authentication process which surprised me. I thought having set-break in the title was one way to avoid it, and I also thought I had seen a while ago that Greg Morris was somehow exempted from the authentication process. Apparently not anymore if they ever were.

Yeah, I just bought a raw card from GM Cards with both set-break in title and it's a 1980's Star basketball card...and still is going to the CSG authenticator just to be delayed and not ultimately authenticated. Greg Morris lists the set correctly (in the Item Specifics section) as 1984-85 Star, so I don't know how that gets tagged for authentication.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by CardPadre

Yeah, I just bought a raw card from GM Cards with both set-break in title and it's a 1980's Star basketball card...and still is going to the CSG authenticator just to be delayed and not ultimately authenticated. Greg Morris lists the set correctly (in the Item Specifics section) as 1984-85 Star, so I don't know how that gets tagged for authentication.

I also had a GM PSA card win go through PSA to authenticate. Since I live on the east coast this caused only a 3 day delay in my receiving it. I won a $500+ PSA card from an east coast seller and after being shipped to PSA and then back east it was almost 10 days (five days on 2 day PM).

I just won a PSA card for $499.99 from a seller 4 hours away from me. Somehow this card also now needs to be sent to PSA to be authenitcated....instead of arriving in 2 days, it will likely now be 8-10 days to receive due to 2 cross country trips. I intentionally offered this amount to AVOID this time-consuming process.

The card was a best offer option (originally priced over $500), the sale price w/o s/h was less than $500. Per ebay's t/c, $500 is the floor. Any ideas as to why a card with a sale price less than $500 now has to be authenticated??

[EddieP]

Originally Posted by jayshum

A raw card I recently bought from Greg Morris that had set-break in the listing title went through the authentication process which surprised me. I thought having set-break in the title was one way to avoid it, and I also thought I had seen a while ago that Greg Morris was somehow exempted from the authentication process. Apparently not anymore if they ever were.

My guess is because Greg Morris is now putting a hyphen between set-break which doesn’t throw off the algorithm ( I bought several cards from him in which the title had Set Break and it bypassed the authenticity guarantee program). I know for a fact that one particular seller is putting “Set Break” ( minus the hypen) in his titles to avoid going through the authenticity guarantee program.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by EddieP

My guess is because Greg Morris is now putting a hyphen between set-break which doesn’t throw off the algorithm ( I bought several cards from him in which the title had Set Break and it bypassed the authenticity guarantee program). I know for a fact that one particular seller is putting “Set Break” ( minus the hypen) in his titles to avoid going through the authenticity guarantee program.

I noticed there was a hyphen as well. I was wondering if that was what made the difference.