M101 Ruth and CJ Jacksons in MH - Over/Under

[MattyC]

Originally Posted by canjond

Totally agree on the prices seeming soft so far on a lot of lots. I had wondered whether were seeing a small correction.

Seems like it. Steep drop on that '15 PSA 3 Joe Jackson from prior sale. The M101 also went down about 60k from that same card's last sale.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Seems like it. Steep drop on that '15 PSA 3 Joe Jackson from prior sale. The M101 also went down about 60k from that same card's last sale.

I could be mistaken but the M101 Ruth went up. With BP the card went for $440k which I thought was 20k more than last time. But overall the Ruth’s and Jackson’s were softer than I thought and many who said the prices seems to be softening (at least based on this auction were correct.

The next market test is REA with a week to go. Then Love of Games the Week after, and so on.

Might just be Auction Fatigue with so many auctions in such a short time.

[seablaster]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

I could be mistaken but the M101 Ruth went up.

This is accurate. It went up $27,471 from its previous sale in December 2021.

[3-2-count]

I'll play devils advocate here on the Psa 3 1915 CJ Jackson.

The example which sold for considerably more just 4 months ago was much nicer.

The deep long crease which extends from the left border through Jax's hands and jersey on the copy last night was a real eye sore. At least it was for me! And what is that blemish on his face??

If I were in the market for one the crease alone would have kept me from bidding on this card. Just my two cents.

[oldjudge]

$428k for an off center blank back M101-4 Ruth tells me all is well in the Ruth market. I find the Gimbels Jackson interesting. Amongst ad backs, Gimbels is one of the more common for Jackson. I wonder what a rare Jackson ad back would have sold for. More generally, I view the M101-4/5's as sets that are just starting to come into their own. Just like T206s, I see M101-4/5 rare front back combinations exploding in value. It's such a great set with not just the Ruth rookie but a fantastic representation of other HOFers and stars. Backs such as Mail Theatre, Everybody's, Block & Kuhl, Wares, Holmes to Homes, Successful Farming and some Gimbels straight letter variations are incredibly rare and have yet to be valued appropriately. Plus, I love the actual photographic images rather than lithographs.

[Stonepony]

Here’s mine from a remote Heritage auction
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[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by Stonepony

Here’s mine from a remote Heritage auction
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Beautiful card Dave. If you ever want to give it up my 1916’s Jackson’s are lonely

[Jstottlemire1]

Originally Posted by Stonepony

Here’s mine from a remote Heritage auction
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Great card Dave congrats. I’ll send you a IG message.


Josh

[Jstottlemire1]

Originally Posted by Stonepony

Here’s mine from a remote Heritage auction
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Great card Dave congrats. I’ll send you a IG message.


Josh

[PhillyFan1883]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

$428k for an off center blank back M101-4 Ruth tells me all is well in the Ruth market. I find the Gimbels Jackson interesting. Amongst ad backs, Gimbels is one of the more common for Jackson. I wonder what a rare Jackson ad back would have sold for. More generally, I view the M101-4/5's as sets that are just starting to come into their own. Just like T206s, I see M101-4/5 rare front back combinations exploding in value. It's such a great set with not just the Ruth rookie but a fantastic representation of other HOFers and stars. Backs such as Mail Theatre, Everybody's, Block & Kuhl, Wares, Holmes to Homes, Successful Farming and some Gimbels straight letter variations are incredibly rare and have yet to be valued appropriately. Plus, I love the actual photographic images rather than lithographs.

Agreed, Jay. We talk about it all the time. Only upside for these cards under appreciated for many years. Don't forget the short prints pulled early for various interesting reasons..

[Jstottlemire1]

Originally Posted by 3-2-count

I'll play devils advocate here on the Psa 3 1915 CJ Jackson.

The example which sold for considerably more just 4 months ago was much nicer.

The deep long crease which extends from the left border through Jax's hands and jersey on the copy last night was a real eye sore. At least it was for me! And what is that blemish on his face??

If I were in the market for one the crease alone would have kept me from bidding on this card. Just my two cents.

The large cease and face imperfection certainly got me as well.

[oldjudge]

Beauty Dave

[Vintageclout]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

I could be mistaken but the M101 Ruth went up. With BP the card went for $440k which I thought was 20k more than last time. But overall the Ruth’s and Jackson’s were softer than I thought and many who said the prices seems to be softening (at least based on this auction were correct.

The next market test is REA with a week to go. Then Love of Games the Week after, and so on.

Might just be Auction Fatigue with so many auctions in such a short time.

You are not mistaken - the Ruth M101 $440K sale is an increase and, to the best of my knowledge, a record price for a “3-VG” example in any public auction. Ruth is ultra-strong, and his high-end/scarce pre-1930 cards continue to fetch extremely strong pricing. For example, a PSA 1 1917 Collins McCarthy Ruth just sold for $114K in Huggins & Scott. No fatigue on rare Ruth’s.