Claim of $80k+ theft at the National

[drcy]

The "Would you hold my bag with $100,000 in it for me for a while?" part itself is bizarre.

[Griffins]

Maybe the light was bad over that table. Happened before.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Griffins

Maybe the light was bad over that table. Happened before.

LOL, I also remember the bad lighting fiasco.

[warrior1978]

Considering the "buyer" is now in Ohio presumably with the cards and declining to return to Atlanta City, if I was the victim and considering the amount, I would be seeking a federal investigation by the FBI under 18 USC 2314.

Whoever transports, transmits, or transfers in interstate or foreign commerce any goods, wares, merchandise, securities or money, of the value of $5,000 or more, knowing the same to have been stolen, converted or taken by fraud;

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2314

[Jim65]

What are the odds the dealer eventually ends up getting charged with insurance fraud or filing a false police report? None of this rings true.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by Jim65

What are the odds the dealer eventually ends up getting charged with insurance fraud or filing a false police report? None of this rings true.

Zero but was thinking the point above, filing a insurance claim. I seen these cards in person before the alleged incident they all had low grade issues none were better than Vg+ His prices on them were way over valued.

[Seven]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Zero but was thinking the point above, filing a insurance claim. I seen these cards in person before the alleged incident they all had low grade issues none were better than Vg+ His prices on them were way over valued.

If I'm correct I believe he had "$800" written in black sharpie on each of the 67 Mantles that I was looking at.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by bnorth

LOL, I also remember the bad lighting fiasco.

That year I ended up buying 4 gray backs from the same seller. Light was just fine over there! I wasn't checking for wrinkles however

[kailes2872]

Originally Posted by Griffins

Maybe the light was bad over that table. Happened before.

Sonny Boy!

[japhi]

Further confirmation that man-child continues to be fully represented in the hobby.

[carolenny]

Once he let the guy walk away with the cards it was a done deal. No one can prove how much cash was in the bag. Exchange bag of cash for cards...guy walks away with cards...Guy hangs around for an hour chatting...He's going to say they had a deal and he paid for the cards.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by carolenny

Once he let the guy walk away with the cards it was a done deal. No one can prove how much cash was in the bag. Exchange bag of cash for cards...guy walks away with cards...Guy hangs around for an hour chatting...He's going to say they had a deal and he paid for the cards.

Right. Furthermore, nobody can say what the cards were worth.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by carolenny

Once he let the guy walk away with the cards it was a done deal. No one can prove how much cash was in the bag. Exchange bag of cash for cards...guy walks away with cards...Guy hangs around for an hour chatting...He's going to say they had a deal and he paid for the cards.

I thought the alleged thief texted Giddings he would see him in the morning in response to Giddings' text to the effect of WTF is going on. That doesn't sound like someone claiming the deal was done.

[Brian Van Horn]

Just curious. How many FBI agents were at the show? I know. They are supposed to blend in with the crowd. Also, how many arrests were made?

[Exhibitman]

This whole thing sounds like a pitch for an SNL skit: Two giant bags of dicks meet at a card show...

[parkplace33]

Any update on this story?

With all the cameras at the National, I would have thought something would have came out.

[chriskim]

Originally Posted by parkplace33

Any update on this story?

With all the cameras at the National, I would have thought something would have came out.

cameras at the National?? Really? I see many people take pics of cards but no cameras monitor the show floor.

[bobbyw8469]

New YouTube video interview with Rick Giddings.

[jfkheat]

Interview link

https://youtu.be/nc03BTv0vDk

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by jfkheat

Interview link

https://youtu.be/nc03BTv0vDk

Yeah that was awful. Gizmo comes off as every collectors' worst nightmare of the typical card dealer. It was hard for me to focus on the "story" because I was mesmerized by his persona. Might take a bit to purge that. Gotta run now and start trying.

[Eric72]

If I was the victim of an $80,000 crime, and the case/investigation was still ongoing, I would only be discussing the situation with legal counsel and law enforcement. Period.

I certainly wouldn't be providing an interview to some random content creator whose name I couldn't remember.

[G1911]

Does anyone know Porter? According to Gizmo the clown he’s active in the hobby, spends a lot, and has a criminal record. This 30 minute version of his story still doesn’t make any sense as having plausibly actually happened.

[Mark17]

I was just thinking, those boxes of cash could possibly (I don't know because I haven't seen them) said: $500.00 instead of $50000, if there was a very faint, almost invisible, decimal point there. So that could be a piece of the guy's defense.

Not a lawyer, but I'd think that would be important in knocking down the accusation of fraud. Unless The Giz has witnesses to him claiming it was $100,000 total in those boxes.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by drcy

The "Would you hold my bag with $100,000 in it for me for a while?" part itself is bizarre.

I guess the kid could be trusted with 80K worth of cards but not 100K cash.