Mike Trout's injury is starting to seem serious

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by BobC

LOL

I hear you Frank. But first off, nobody was saying they were any kind of expert, nor trying to tell Mike Trout what to do either, which is what you kind of alluded to when you said you'd pass this thread along to him. I know I would never tell someone like him what to do, just speculating on how what he does decide may be perceived by fans and how it could be viewed in regard to and ultimately affect his legacy as a player and his HOF status.

My original question to you was solely in regard to that question, the one I asked about his possibly continuing to play if his level of play is considerably diminished going forward. And I was asking you to respond in regard to your background and experience as a baseball fan and collector, which I would naturally believe most everyone posting on this forum is to some extent. I was not implying nor asking for any kind of medical opinion. If that is what you were thinking, you just went down the wrong rabbit hole.

Anyone reading your question to Frank would have assumed you were asking about his "background and experience" as a doctor, not a fan and collector. As you are now spinning it, it makes no sense. Just my opinion. Carry on.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Anyone reading your question to Frank would have assumed you were asking about his "background and experience" as a doctor, not a fan and collector. As you are now spinning it, it makes no sense. Just my opinion. Carry on.

Hmmmmmmmmmm???

I only know what I thought and meant, and sure as hell wasn't spinning anything. I've often been accused on here of writing too much, which I do so that what I'm saying is complete and as clear as possible. If I had wanted a medical opinion from someone, I would have stated I wanted a medical opinion. Quite honestly, I had forgotten about someone even being a doctor when I responded. But thank you for going ahead and making an assumption on your, and apparently everyone else's behalf, as to what I was thinking and meant!!!

I gave that one post the benefit of the doubt and figured it was made as a joke about letting Trout know what all the "experts" on here were telling him to do, because if you go back and read the actual posts, no one was telling Trout to do anything. And rather than commenting on it and pointing out the potential sarcasm and error in that one response, I just simply asked the person posting to respond to the actual serious question I had originally asked and was hoping to hear his, and other people's opinions and responses on. In other words, just looking to get the thread back on track. But guess what, because of other posters making more jokes and comments and continuing to ignore the question and instead making assumptions as to what they believe others are saying/thinking, no one has yet to really respond to the original, serious question about how Trout's ability and playing level going forward could affect how his legacy as a player may end up being perceived.

So thank you to those that have once again succeeded in hijacking and turning a thread from its original topic, talking about Trout and how his current injury situation could affect him now and going forward. If I had even remotely meant what you insinuated, I would have owned up and admitted to it. If I am wrong about something, I'm the first to admit it and apologize for it. I'm also open-minded enough to actually listen to things that others say, and can have my mind and thinking changed when presented with logical, sensical facts and civil arguments.

And in an attempt to try once more to get this thread back on point, why not actually post a response to the question about how Trout's future ability to play ball could affect his legacy if he were to continue playing at a much diminished level, or if he decides to retire early?

Carry on yourself!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Well, Pujols has been mediocre since 2011 and it hasn't seemed to hurt his legacy.

[G1911]

Trout has played in 12 MLB seasons. 10 are needed for the Hall.

I said he played "8 real seasons", because has number of incomplete seasons.

In 2011 he had 135 plate appearances and hit .220 as a debut.

2020 was a short season and he played 53 games.

In 2021 he played in only 36 games.

In 2022 he has played in 79 games, and appears to be done for the year.

12-4 equals 8 full seasons.

If people could simply read what is actually written, this wouldn't need to be broken down.

[frankbmd]

I'm not ashamed of my rabbit hole Bob. It never crossed my mind that you were asking for anything other than a medical opinion. Given the content of your voluminous "taxing" posts, I am quite surprised that you would have expected anything else.

I have purchased one Trout baseball card which I gave to a grandson. I'm am generally disinterested in threads concerning who should or shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame. I could care less. Trout's current situation will be resolved one way or the other regardless of the consensus opinion of Net54. Five years from now we will all know more about the impact of his condition on his career and this thread will be long forgotten.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

I'm not ashamed of my rabbit hole Bob. It never crossed my mind that you were asking for anything other than a medical opinion. Given the content of your voluminous "taxing" posts, I am quite surprised that you would have expected anything else.

I have purchased one Trout baseball card which I gave to a grandson. I'm am generally disinterested in threads concerning who should or shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame. I could care less. Trout's current situation will be resolved one way or the other regardless of the consensus opinion of Net54. Five years from now we will all know more about the impact of his condition on his career and this thread will be long forgotten.

If he just wanted your opinion as a collector and fan why the preface to the question at all? We're all collectors and fans. Certainly a fair reading.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by G1911

Trout has played in 12 MLB seasons. 10 are needed for the Hall.

I said he played "8 real seasons", because has number of incomplete seasons.

In 2011 he had 135 plate appearances and hit .220 as a debut.

2020 was a short season and he played 53 games.

In 2021 he played in only 36 games.

In 2022 he has played in 79 games, and appears to be done for the year.

12-4 equals 8 full seasons.

If people could simply read what is actually written, this wouldn't need to be broken down.

I agree with you here, and was a reason i used 8 in the hypothetical and when i was 'corrected' i didnt want to get in the back and forth

[G1911]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

I agree with you here, and was a reason i used 8 in the hypothetical and when i was 'corrected' i didnt want to get in the back and forth

The transcript demonstrates you very much did not; you used it as 8 total seasons.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by G1911

The transcript demonstrates you very much did not; you used it as 8 total seasons.

when i stated i was citing 8 from a poster, i clarified where I received the 8 from.,...you can see it quoted with 'real seasons' from YOUR quote

i did use the term total 8 but was in the context of 8 real seasons , i didnt come up with 8 out of the blue.. it was from the prior post as I stated i cited..

so yes sorry used the wrong term initially but when used your quote of 'real seasons' i thought people understood.....Thus the trancript would demonstrate the correction.....take away all of my babe ruth cards for my initial use of the term...

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Well, Pujols has been mediocre since 2011 and it hasn't seemed to hurt his legacy.

Because counting stats save the day for the ones that pound in the years to a ripe playing age..