USPS Packages dropped off in receptacle issues??

savedfrommyspokes · #1 07-20-2022, 11:47 AM

I drop most of my outgoing mail in a blue box daily. Approximately once a month an origin scan or two will be missed. Far more often missed are the origin scans on the ebay envelopes, sometimes an entire day's worth have been missed. That results with the first scan appearing going into the recipient's local sort center. Any mailings of value, I schedule a pickup and hand it to the carrier who scans it (or is supposed to) on the spot. I would schedule more pickups, but the local carrier has strongly hinted he does not appreciate too many items to scan.

I apparently upset the driver who picks up the blue boxes in my area. This driver drove 8 miles out of their way to come to my house and tell me I was "over filling" the blue bins and if I kept doing it, it would be escalated???? Hardly do I fill the blue bins! Either way, I cut down what I drop in the blue bins and drop at other mail intakes around my area. Watching the conversation from my doorbell cam footage with this USPS person was priceless.

bobbyw8469 · #2 07-20-2022, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

I drop most of my outgoing mail in a blue box daily. Approximately once a month an origin scan or two will be missed. Far more often missed are the origin scans on the ebay envelopes, sometimes an entire day's worth have been missed. That results with the first scan appearing going into the recipient's local sort center. Any mailings of value, I schedule a pickup and hand it to the carrier who scans it (or is supposed to) on the spot. I would schedule more pickups, but the local carrier has strongly hinted he does not appreciate too many items to scan.

I apparently upset the driver who picks up the blue boxes in my area. This driver drove 8 miles out of their way to come to my house and tell me I was "over filling" the blue bins and if I kept doing it, it would be escalated???? Hardly do I fill the blue bins! Either way, I cut down what I drop in the blue bins and drop at other mail intakes around my area. Watching the conversation from my doorbell cam footage with this USPS person was priceless.

Sounds like it was a hoot. He went out of his way to get on you for making him work too hard!

jimq16415 · #3 07-20-2022, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

Far more often missed are the origin scans on the ebay envelopes, sometimes an entire day's worth have been missed. That results with the first scan appearing going into the recipient's local sort center.

Those never get scanned, the scanners don't recognize them. The address readers catch them as they go by, and they estimate them as "delivered" when they hit the final plant. A carrier doesn't even know he's delivering it, it comes sorted in with all the other letters that day.

savedfrommyspokes · #4 07-20-2022, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jimq16415

Those never get scanned, the scanners don't recognize them. The address readers catch them as they go by, and they estimate them as "delivered" when they hit the final plant. A carrier doesn't even know he's delivering it, it comes sorted in with all the other letters that day.

Scan may not have been the proper term to use, however, on most days these ebay mailings show up as "Accepted" via my local sort center. Periodically on other days, I have had none "Accepted" via my local sort center. The explanation I received from my local carrier is that these ebay envelopes are fed through some type of sorting machine that recognizes the ebay barcode.

I understand the estimation of the delivery date process, very often I receive messages from a buyer staining it is shown as delivered but not received. Normally within 2-3 days it does arrive.

JustinD · #5 07-20-2022, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

I drop most of my outgoing mail in a blue box daily. Approximately once a month an origin scan or two will be missed. Far more often missed are the origin scans on the ebay envelopes, sometimes an entire day's worth have been missed. That results with the first scan appearing going into the recipient's local sort center. Any mailings of value, I schedule a pickup and hand it to the carrier who scans it (or is supposed to) on the spot. I would schedule more pickups, but the local carrier has strongly hinted he does not appreciate too many items to scan.

I apparently upset the driver who picks up the blue boxes in my area. This driver drove 8 miles out of their way to come to my house and tell me I was "over filling" the blue bins and if I kept doing it, it would be escalated???? Hardly do I fill the blue bins! Either way, I cut down what I drop in the blue bins and drop at other mail intakes around my area. Watching the conversation from my doorbell cam footage with this USPS person was priceless.

That's nuts.

I would probably stop by and discuss the legitimacy of this policy with the local postmaster and email a copy of the discussion.

bnorth · #6 07-20-2022, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinD

That's nuts.

I would probably stop by and discuss the legitimacy of this policy with the local postmaster and email a copy of the discussion.

That is a very bad idea. I hang out with several postal workers. It is almost impossible for them to get fired and they really don't give a damn about your mail. They can also "accidently" lose an important to you piece of mail for a few days.

My favorite was when a friend went and complained to the postmaster about a friend of mine that delivered their mail. So my friend delivered a notice in their mailbox that they could no longer deliver their mail untill they cleaned ALL the snow and ice off their sidewalk.LOL

savedfrommyspokes · #7 07-20-2022, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bnorth

That is a very bad idea. I hang out with several postal workers. It is almost impossible for them to get fired and they really don't give a damn about your mail. They can also "accidently" lose an important to you piece of mail for a few days.

My favorite was when a friend went and complained to the postmaster about a friend of mine that delivered their mail. So my friend delivered a notice in their mailbox that they could no longer deliver their mail untill they cleaned ALL the snow and ice off their sidewalk.LOL

You typed faster than me Ben. Yep, sounds like some of these folks are on the same page.....complain about them and the service gets worse.

bobbyw8469 · #8 07-20-2022, 02:27 PM

It has officially been over 24 hours with no movement.....at what point should I just chalk these up as being lost?

bnorth · #9 07-20-2022, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

It has officially been over 24 hours with no movement.....at what point should I just chalk these up as being lost?

LOL you are freaking out after 24 hours. Calm the F down. If after 2 weeks you have nothing then maybe start to worry. Seriously Bobby with all the cards you sell you should know this.

bobbyw8469 · #10 07-20-2022, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bnorth

LOL you are freaking out after 24 hours. Calm the F down. If after 2 weeks you have nothing then maybe start to worry. Seriously Bobby with all the cards you sell you should know this.

I must have had incredible luck then, before I have never had this happen before.

savedfrommyspokes · #11 07-20-2022, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinD

That's nuts.

I would probably stop by and discuss the legitimacy of this policy with the local postmaster and email a copy of the discussion.

I would do this, BUT, several folks who work in the area under this local postmaster told me flat out, he doesn't care and would likely laugh at my concern. These folks mention that there is apparently no accountability for certain people's behavior, while there is with others. I am guessing that is why the blue bin person felt they could behave this way, they feel that their lazy behavior will be defended by this PM. Some of these folks are 20+ year employees and feel morale has never been lower under this PM .

I could go above this PM and complain, but that will likely result in more of my outgoing mail becoming accidently "misrouted" on a more regular basis.

BillyCoxDodgers3B · #12 07-20-2022, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

I would schedule more pickups, but the local carrier has strongly hinted he does not appreciate too many items to scan.

Tough shit. Lazy POS.

BillyCoxDodgers3B · #13 07-20-2022, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

I apparently upset the driver who picks up the blue boxes in my area. This driver drove 8 miles out of their way to come to my house and tell me I was "over filling" the blue bins and if I kept doing it, it would be escalated????

Tell this guy to escalate all he wants (whatever that means) and ask him to point to any rule or law that prevents you from sending as much mail as you pay to send. Offer to escalate it yourself! Record video of any future in-person exchanges you have with this worker. Report him as high up the chain of command as you can and take your future mailings to a nearby town if you're worried about anything in that regard. It might not do any good, but it's better than doing nothing.

I'd love to meet this &#*@$. I hate this type of USPS employee so much. Finding a decent one is a treasure.

Aquarian Sports Cards · #14 07-20-2022, 02:48 PM

schedule a free pick up and your carrier will scan when he picks up.

jimq16415 · #15 07-20-2022, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BillyCox3

Tell this guy to escalate all he wants (whatever that means) and ask him to point to any rule or law that prevents you from sending as much mail as you pay to send. Offer to escalate it yourself! Record video of any future in-person exchanges you have with this worker. Report him as high up the chain of command as you can and take your future mailings to a nearby town if you're worried about anything in that regard. It might not do any good, but it's better than doing nothing.

I'd love to meet this &#*@$. I hate this type of USPS employee so much. Finding a decent one is a treasure.

The Postmaster's boss is usually the POOM. Most POOMs are worthless but they are usually not too happy with anyone turning away revenue. Not a lot of things you can do to get fired at USPS but that driver is looking to work at Walmart. There is no such rule. Most offices would have the driver make a 2nd trip if they had to (with pay).

savedfrommyspokes · #16 07-20-2022, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BillyCox3

Tell this guy to escalate all he wants (whatever that means) and ask him to point to any rule or law that prevents you from sending as much mail as you pay to send. Offer to escalate it yourself! Record video of any future in-person exchanges you have with this worker. Report him as high up the chain of command as you can and take your future mailings to a nearby town if you're worried about anything in that regard. It might not do any good, but it's better than doing nothing.

I'd love to meet this &#*@$. I hate this type of USPS employee so much. Finding a decent one is a treasure.

IMO, just a lazy employee who was being overworked due to having to bring two bins instead of one to empty out the blue box I dropped my mail in. Here is the first video from the visit I received regarding dropping too much mail....

https://youtu.be/GFWtp_Jftzs

I don't think I will post the rest of the videos, as the conversation quickly goes downhill as I asked a few too many questions about the concern. I struggled to understand how filling a blue box a third full was "stuffing it".
After 10+ years of dropping in the same blue box, this visit admittedly caught me off guard.

Long story short, my regular carrier agreed to scan my packages after seeing the videos to help me out. I help him out by spreading the thinner packages around to the cluster boxes in my neighborhood and drop not more than 1/8th of a bin into the closest blue box. In other words, to keep the peace and not tick off anyone else (someone who could purposely lose my packages) I spread the 40-50 packages a day out amongst 4-5 drop locations/carriers. Wouldn't want to overwork any one specific employee.

Eric72 · #17 07-20-2022, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

...I spread the 40-50 packages a day out amongst 4-5 drop locations/carriers...

Wouldn't it be simpler to drop everything off at one Post Office?

savedfrommyspokes · #18 07-20-2022, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric72

Wouldn't it be simpler to drop everything off at one Post Office?

Not simpler at all. The closest PO is about a 25-30 min drive one way due to traffic. The closest blue box is a 15 minute bike ride one way, which is my preference anyway. The cluster boxes I also drop packages in are all along the same bike path I take to get to the closest blue box. To break it down time wise, going to the closet blue box versus the closest PO saves about 125 hours a year (based on saving 30 minutes a day). Since I already ride 30 min a day to keep in shape, no point not to use my daily ride to drop off some mail.

In regard to having the USPS PU from the mailbox, due to having a cluster box, that doesn't work at all.

For me, dropping it all (minus high $ stuff) in a blue box was really the simplest thing.

Eric72 · #19 07-20-2022, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

Not simpler at all. The closest PO is about a 25-30 min drive one way due to traffic. The closest blue box is a 15 minute bike ride one way, which is my preference anyway. The cluster boxes I also drop packages in are all along the same bike path I take to get to the closest blue box. To break it down time wise, going to the closet blue box versus the closest PO saves about 125 hours a year (based on saving 30 minutes a day). Since I already ride 30 min a day to keep in shape, no point not to use my daily ride to drop off some mail.

In regard to having the USPS PU from the mailbox, due to having a cluster box, that doesn't work at all.

For me, dropping it all (minus high $ stuff) in a blue box was really the simplest thing.

When you put things that way, they make perfect sense.

bobbyw8469 · #20 07-21-2022, 09:58 AM

Thanks for all the advice everyone. The items FINALLY got a scan, last night, around midnight from MY local zip code. It is like someone turned the switch on.

obcbobd · #21 07-20-2022, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

I drop most of my outgoing mail in a blue box daily. Approximately once a month an origin scan or two will be missed. Far more often missed are the origin scans on the ebay envelopes, sometimes an entire day's worth have been missed. That results with the first scan appearing going into the recipient's local sort center. Any mailings of value, I schedule a pickup and hand it to the carrier who scans it (or is supposed to) on the spot. I would schedule more pickups, but the local carrier has strongly hinted he does not appreciate too many items to scan.

I apparently upset the driver who picks up the blue boxes in my area. This driver drove 8 miles out of their way to come to my house and tell me I was "over filling" the blue bins and if I kept doing it, it would be escalated???? Hardly do I fill the blue bins! Either way, I cut down what I drop in the blue bins and drop at other mail intakes around my area. Watching the conversation from my doorbell cam footage with this USPS person was priceless.

In my town most of the blue boxes have been modified so that it is impossible to post anything > 1/4 inch thick. Puffies or small flat rate boxes do not fit. :-(

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