churchman ruth ebay auction

[Tyruscobb]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

How can it be a Babe Ruth card if nowhere on the card is the player identified? They drew a Ruth like figure but avoided paying royalties since there is no name. To me the card is worthless.

Babe Ruth's name not appearing on the card does not mean it is not a Babe Ruth card. The image and likeness (not a name) is what make it a Ruth card.

The artist did not draw a "Ruth like figure," he/she drew Ruth from a photograph (just like the T-206 cards were drawn/painted from real life photographs). Here is one of many photographs that could have served as the model. It is not even debatable that the card shows Ruth.

Worthless? Maybe to you, but the market indicates otherwise.

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by Tyruscobb

It is not even debatable that the card shows Ruth.

I think without the certain identification on the back it is certainly debatable. It would be an uphill climb and I am on your side thinking it is Ruth, but it's certainly debatable.

Also, if it's a fantasy painting of a "Babe Ruth type character" to avoid licensing, is that really a Babe Ruth card or a baseball themed card? I think the 1929 Shonen Club proves it is Ruth but things roll into into semantics, so it throws a wrench into it for me.

We could still be upended in the future much like this one, lol (sarcasm fyi)-