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Old 07-18-2022, 07:39 AM
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At least we can say it is our hobby Peter. Just have to try and be a little more vigilant and watch out for the scams, fakes, and problems. I guess one good thing for the likes of us is that we've been in the hobby for enough years that we preceded a lot of the more current nonsense going on. And hopefully were able to find and acquire items that aren't so easy (and cheap) to acquire anymore. And we also probably know a little bit more than the average collector (at least I hope so) when it comes to vintage/pre-war.

I do know that I'd really hate to be starting out in the hobby these days now. It is a lot different than it was 20-30 years ago, that is for sure. LOL
There was as much if not more fraud 20-30 years ago as there is now. Much of it from the same group of clowns.
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Old 07-18-2022, 12:04 PM
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There was as much if not more fraud 20-30 years ago as there is now. Much of it from the same group of clowns.
Without a doubt Glyn. But back then you were more likely to come across these types at shows and in person. In those cases you would actually get to see and examine items in person, and thus be better able to discern if there were problems and issues. I know there were still mail order services, but it seems that most people back then stuck to the more well-known and respected dealers through the mail. Nowadays, with the internet and all, the scammers come looking for you, just look at the scams coming through our own B/S/T forum. And of course, Ebay is probably the biggest factor to really grow and expand the collecting hobby, and along with it, the scammers and thieves. The advent of TPGs and grading only added another twist or level to the kinds of fakes and scams that the would-be thieves would try to foist upon the collecting public. And with the expansion of those on the internet, those thieves and frauds can now reach a far larger number of people, literally around the world, and get paid using modern payment techniques that didn't exist back then. At least in the past, the scammers at a show trying to sell you a fake had to have an actual fake/counterfeit item to sell you. Nowadays with the internet, they can just steal an image from anywhere and pass it off as their own to unsuspecting marks.

That is more of what I was getting at. With the internet and the way more and more people just blindly accept buying virtually everything, sight unseen, online, it allows for more opportunities for crooks and fraudsters to take advantage of people. An old baby boomer like myself is automatically more skeptical from having been in this hobby for decades, and having seen and/or handled a lot of the fakes and counterfeits that can be out there. I still prefer the idea of going to a store to actually see and examine what I'm looking to buy, but since that concept and platform has been disappearing more and more in recent years, it just makes me all the more careful and overly skeptical when buying things in today's environment online.
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Old 07-18-2022, 12:59 PM
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Another year at the National. Looking forward to seeing my steady diet of good customers and hopefully some new faces. I will be at booth #328. A majority of cards I will be selling are graded T206 cards, mostly graded by PSA. some SGC as well. Grades PSA 2s-PSA 6's, with a majority of them graded PSA 6's. I also have some graded T205's and some E-cards. Also added some PSA graded vintage from the 50's as well. Bill Brodhead at brodcards@aol.com
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This hobby sure attracts them, doesn't it?
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Tacking onto this if everyone wouldn't mind.

I primarily like to target raw vintage. Definitely looking to add some lower level pre-war cards, but possibly some 1953 Topps, along with alternative issues like Dan-Dee and Red Heart as well. If anyone could point me in the right direction, that would be fantastic.

I might be looking for signed Mantle ball, depending on how my spending goes. Who would be the more reliable booths to search for signed baseballs? Thank you.

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Seven: I do set up a showcase with esoteric items in it like 30-40 Dan Dees, some Red Hearts, Sugardales, and many other different company releases. Often, I get customers who buy the whole lot, so stop by Booth 1100, 6 booths in the main entrance. If you are looking for perfection, I tend to target those issues that are not in such condition.

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Love of the Game will be similarly set up in the back of the room for our 10th National, booth 425 and 429.

I'll have a nice selection of items on display that will be in our Summer auction, which launches the week after the show.

We'll also be accepting consignments for our fall auction, which is, not so coincidentally, our Tenth Anniversary Auction. Ten years flew by quick, we're hoping to make this auction a special one so bring all your Baltimore News Ruths and Anson in Uniforms, please.

And if you've got nothing to consign and no interest in looking at the stuff on display, please at least stop by and say hello!

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Old 07-20-2022, 09:56 AM
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Dave McDonald and I will be in booth #657. Dave specializes in high grade post-War raw vintage, especially 1953 Topps. I have some pre-War but mostly off-grade post-War vintage, all sports. I just picked up a nice group of high-grade hockey, late '60's to early '70's. I don't know if I will have the space to put it out, so please ask if you are interested. www.fatdaddyssports.com
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I didn't know there was two of us. To my friends in Net54 Land who might be confused I would love nothing better to hang with you at a National but I remain rotting in place here on Vancouver Island and traveling to Atlantic City is not in the cards. Have fun and remember to stay off the Boardwalk after midnight.

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Sorry, I thought there might be another Dave McDonald on here. I am setting up with the Dave McDonald who is a vintage dealer from Chicago. Many will know him from the Chicago Nationals, the Sun-Times shows and Strongsville.
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I didn't know there was two of us. To my friends in Net54 Land who might be confused I would love nothing better to hang with you at a National but I remain rotting in place here on Vancouver Island and traveling to Atlantic City is not in the cards. Have fun and remember to stay off the Boardwalk after midnight.

LoL. Rotting in place on Victoria Island..

For those who have never been Victoria Island is one of the nicest places in North America. I imagine that a stroll through Bouchard gardens, and talking about turn of the century NY Giants teams with Dave, would trump any day at this or any National. My first sale on this board was to Dave 9 years ago. He has continued to answer my esoteric questions (mostly about 1880's to 1900's NY Giants) since then. Enjoy the sea breeze Dave.. maybe next year..
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