auto racing cards

[Bored5000]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Any thoughts on this one? I never understand why on some of these there is a grade for the card but not the auto, and some vice versa, and some both, is it a question of how much someone is willing to pay to get it graded?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/18540420271...UAAOSwvZZiadey

Might just go for it lol, not many PSA graded and I prefer that to Beckett.

Peter, that card looks good. The price looks high, but it could be a while until a PSA graded one shows up at auction.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Bored5000

Peter, that card looks good. The price looks high, but it could be a while until a PSA graded one shows up at auction.

Thank you. Yeah, it is a tad high. I'll think on it.

[Peter_Spaeth]

SADA Fangio. Eddie, is it 56 or 58 do you know?

[Bored5000]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

SADA Fangio. Eddie, is it 56 or 58 do you know?

Awesome pickup, Peter. I don't get how undervalued Fangio cards are, considering he is one of the 3-4 drivers for whom a serious case can be made for being the best F1 driver of all time.

I believe the SADA card is from 1958, although I have seen it listed by eBay sellers as 1956. The information I found previously online about the card almost always listed the year as 1958.

https://www.cardsoflegends.com/colle...l-fangio-1958/

Here is a checklist from the entire set of SADA cards, and the checklist says 1958. That would make me think that is the correct year.

http://athleticards.com/c_girandola.html

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Bored5000

Awesome pickup, Peter. I don't get how undervalued Fangio cards are, considering he is one of the 3-4 drivers for whom a serious case can be made for being the best F1 driver of all time.

I believe the SADA card is from 1958, although I have seen it listed by eBay sellers as 1956. The information I found previously online about the card almost always listed the year as 1958.

https://www.cardsoflegends.com/colle...l-fangio-1958/

Here is a checklist from the entire set of SADA cards, and the checklist says 1958. That would make me think that is the correct year.

http://athleticards.com/c_girandola.html

Thanks. From the Marciano I always thought it was a 58 set. As for the other drivers in the conversation, are you thinking Clark Senna and Hamilton? Lots of views on the subject of course.

[Bored5000]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Thanks. From the Marciano I always thought it was a 58 set. As for the other drivers in the conversation, are you thinking Clark Senna and Hamilton? Lots of views on the subject of course.

I was actually thinking Schumacher more than Clark. I know Clark was killed at Hockenheim at age 32 and his win percentage is among the best of all time, but his early death robbed him of future wins/titles. Even with Clark's early death, I think it is hard to make a case for him being number one with 25 wins and two world titles when you look at how many wins and titles the other possibilities had.

Prost is usually ranked somewhere between third and fifth all-time on most lists, and I guess that is probably where he should be. But I was listening to Tom Clarkson's F1 "Beyond the Grid" podcast with Prost a few months back and Clarkson made a credible case for how Prost could have won 7-8 world titles.

Prost won four championships and finished second four other times. He lost the title by two points to Nelson Piquet in 1983, half a point to Niki Lauda in 1984, three points to Senna in 1988 and seven points to Senna in 1990 (thanks to the infamous Suzuka crash when he was taken out by Senna).

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Bored5000

I was actually thinking Schumacher more than Clark. I know Clark was killed at Hockenheim at age 32 and his win percentage is among the best of all time, but his early death robbed him of future wins/titles. Even with Clark's early death, I think it is hard to make a case for him being number one with 25 wins and two world titles when you look at how many wins and titles the other possibilities had.

Prost is usually ranked somewhere between third and fifth all-time on most lists, and I guess that is probably where he should be. But I was listening to Tom Clarkson's F1 "Beyond the Grid" podcast with Prost a few months back and Clarkson made a credible case for how Prost could have won 7-8 world titles.

Prost won four championships and finished second four other times. He lost the title by two points to Nelson Piquet in 1983, half a point to Niki Lauda in 1984, three points to Senna in 1988 and seven points to Senna in 1990 (thanks to the infamous Suzuka crash when he was taken out by Senna).

I have a Prost RC (hopefully) incoming; I recently had a UK package go missing on me.