Tinker-Evers-Chance

[Yoda]

Can someone please enlighten me as to what a "gonfalon bubble'











Can someone please enlighten me as to what a "gonfalon bubble," is?














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[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Yoda

Can someone please enlighten me as to what a "gonfalon bubble," is?
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A gonfalon is a pennant. "Pricking one's gonfalon bubble" simply means bursting one's bubble in regard to their hopes of winning the pennant.

In this case, the poem's author (Franklin P. Adams) was a Giants fan. While hoping for a Giant's pennant berth, Tinker/Evers/Chance would ruthlessly burst his bubble by turning a Giant hit into a "double" (short for a double-play).

[Belfast1933]

One of my faves... might need to display alongside the poem. Just so cool to have all 3, in the right order, no less!

[jsfriedm]

Here they are:

[FrankWakefield]

Yoda, Please consider this a tweak of Mark's response about gonfalon...

Franklin Pierce Adams wrote that... read about him in Wiki. He was super literate, as were the others in the Algonquin Round table (read about that, in Wiki, too).

So, at the time, the New York Times crossword puzzle had not used the word GONFALON in the clues for a word, nor as a word for a puzzle. It was THAT to which he was referring, bursting THAT bubble. These folks were all about the words... hence the way that poem is written.

While fine tuning my answer to that, I came across the 15 letter aspect of the 3 players, and I don't recall ever encountering that before...

The last name, plus the position... when the letters for that are added the total for each is 15.

Tinker 6 short 5 stop 4 6+5+4=15
Evers 5 second 6 base 4 5+6+4=15
Chance 6 first 5 base 4 6+5+4=15

What does that mean?

1- the 15 letter thing is a huge coincidence.

2- these Roundtable guys (and a few gals) were really digging into every sentence, word, letter count, and definition that might be associated in some way that they've overlooked.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by FrankWakefield

While fine tuning my answer to that, I came across the 15 letter aspect of the 3 players, and I don't recall ever encountering that before...

The last name, plus the position... when the letters for that are added the total for each is 15.

Tinker 6 short 5 stop 4 6+5+4=15
Evers 5 second 6 base 4 5+6+4=15
Chance 6 first 5 base 4 6+5+4=15

What does that mean?

1- the 15 letter thing is a huge coincidence.

2- these Roundtable guys (and a few gals) were really digging into every sentence, word, letter count, and definition that might be associated in some way that they've overlooked.

Too bad the small bears traded with Cincinnati to get Harry Steinfelt after the 1905 season, then sold Hans Lobert to the reds a couple months later...

Lobert 6 third 5 base 4 6+5+4 = 15

They could've had an all 15 infield. And when Reulbach, Lundgren, or Pfeister pitched......

[Jobu]

Fun figuring out which ones to post

[molenick]

Originally Posted by FrankWakefield

Yoda, Please consider this a tweak of Mark's response about gonfalon...

Franklin Pierce Adams wrote that... read about him in Wiki. He was super literate, as were the others in the Algonquin Round table (read about that, in Wiki, too).

So, at the time, the New York Times crossword puzzle had not used the word GONFALON in the clues for a word, nor as a word for a puzzle. It was THAT to which he was referring, bursting THAT bubble. These folks were all about the words... hence the way that poem is written.

While fine tuning my answer to that, I came across the 15 letter aspect of the 3 players, and I don't recall ever encountering that before...

The last name, plus the position... when the letters for that are added the total for each is 15.

Tinker 6 short 5 stop 4 6+5+4=15
Evers 5 second 6 base 4 5+6+4=15
Chance 6 first 5 base 4 6+5+4=15

What does that mean?

1- the 15 letter thing is a huge coincidence.

2- these Roundtable guys (and a few gals) were really digging into every sentence, word, letter count, and definition that might be associated in some way that they've overlooked.

Just a little tweak to Frank's comments. The poem was published in 1910. While word games in a grid existed before then, the first modern crossword as we know it was not published until 1913 and the NY Times did not publish one until 1942.

And while Adams was later a member of the Algonquin Round Table, the heyday of that group was 1919-1929.

I am not sure about the rest of the analysis but I always interpreted "pricking our gonfalon bubble" to mean "ruining our chances to win the pennant". I never thought it meant "the word gonfalon has not appeared in the NY Times crossword puzzle".

But maybe I am misreading Franks's comments.

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by FrankWakefield

Yoda, Please consider this a tweak of Mark's response about gonfalon...

Franklin Pierce Adams wrote that... read about him in Wiki. He was super literate, as were the others in the Algonquin Round table (read about that, in Wiki, too).

So, at the time, the New York Times crossword puzzle had not used the word GONFALON in the clues for a word, nor as a word for a puzzle. It was THAT to which he was referring, bursting THAT bubble. These folks were all about the words... hence the way that poem is written.

While fine tuning my answer to that, I came across the 15 letter aspect of the 3 players, and I don't recall ever encountering that before...

The last name, plus the position... when the letters for that are added the total for each is 15.

Tinker 6 short 5 stop 4 6+5+4=15
Evers 5 second 6 base 4 5+6+4=15
Chance 6 first 5 base 4 6+5+4=15

What does that mean?

1- the 15 letter thing is a huge coincidence.

2- these Roundtable guys (and a few gals) were really digging into every sentence, word, letter count, and definition that might be associated in some way that they've overlooked.

Mark & Frank, tks guys, now the ganfalon word has been uploaded into my vocabulary, and i can now say without quivering, 'sure hope the Yanks win the AL East Ganfalon'.
Wasn't Dorothy Parker a member of the Algonquin crowd who used to gather at the Chelsea Hotel to exchange literary views and get shitfaced?

[molenick]

Originally Posted by Yoda

Mark & Frank, tks guys, now the ganfalon word has been uploaded into my vocabulary, and i can now say without quivering, 'sure hope the Yanks win the AL East Ganfalon'.
Wasn't Dorothy Parker a member of the Algonquin crowd who used to gather at the Chelsea Hotel to exchange literary views and get shitfaced?

Yes, she was. And while the Chelsea Hotel had its own scene, the Algonquin crowd gathered at the Algonquin Hotel.