Highly anticipated triple logoman was 50% off

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Sorry if someone answered my prior question. Why Authentic?

I could be wrong but my guess is that the submitter didn't want it to say "9" so they went with an "A only" request.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Sorry if someone answered my prior question. Why Authentic?

Probably because the logos are not evenly and consistently seated in their slots. Which goes toward proving how stupid the whole thing is anyway.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Such a poorly designed card, you could have done so much with it if was a postcard size card. It looks more like an homage to the Jerry West logo with tiny pics of LJ squeezed in as an afterthought.

Just by making the orientation vertical, and I think there was room, they could have had much larger images of LeBron. But the people bidding on this don't care, I assume, about the aesthetics.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Carter08

Joe Jackson polo grounds went stronger than I wanted on heritage.

I ended up picking up tickets to 1980 usa hockey. Paid more for the gold medal game ticket than the Russia ticket. Same condition. Makes no sense.

I don't know if we'll see a trend, but for what they are -- among the very few career Joe Jackson issues none of which are easy to find -- the playing card issues have always struck me as relatively undervalued.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Such a poorly designed card, you could have done so much with it if was a postcard size card. It looks more like an homage to the Jerry West logo with tiny pics of LJ squeezed in as an afterthought.

ya...the design on a lot of this stuff is an abomination...my sister, who is an excellent graphic designer, could do much, much better!

And at what point does thickness factor into what makes a card...a card? Or doesn't it matter? Some of these newer "premium" cards are like 1/8" thick????

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

I could be wrong but my guess is that the submitter didn't want it to say "9" so they went with an "A only" request.

i'd guess it's altered...as many newer basketball cards are. Which if it is... to alter a 1/1...is just stoopid!

But many are stoopid (crazy for cocoa puffs) when it comes to "10's."

[Snapolit1]

I watched a ton of breaks of modern cards and one of the funniest things to me is when people go insane "winning" a "LAUNDRY TAG" relic card. People are frothing at the mouth how lucky they are to win the 1/10 Trevor Lawrence "LAUNDRY TAG". Always makes me chuckle. . . . .congrats . . . .amazing win . . . you now own a tag that was possibly cut out from another guy's worn underwear. Something to cherish indeed. A family relic to be passed down from one generation to the next.

Originally Posted by ullmandds

ya...the design on a lot of this stuff is an abomination...my sister, who is an excellent graphic designer, could do much, much better!

And at what point does thickness factor into what makes a card...a card? Or doesn't it matter? Some of these newer "premium" cards are like 1/8" thick????

[samosa4u]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Sorry if someone answered my prior question. Why Authentic?

Peter is asking a good question here and I think a lot of people are overlooking this part.

PSA has given some of these logoman cards numerical grades in the past. Why does this one not have it? If it had graded a PSA 10 GEM MINT, then do you think the final price would have been 2.4M? Another way of looking at it is this: a 1952 Topps Mantle PSA AUTHENTIC example is going to sell for much less than a PSA 5 EX or a PSA 7 NM, right?

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Man, I could build such a beautiful pre-war collection for that kind of money.

Yeah, no shit! You hit that one dead on. Even with the escalation in prices, $3M would still build a nice collection. If you weren't going for primo grade stuff, you could have a lot of nice cardboard (oh yeah, with all the plastic that goes around it these days).

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

I watched a ton of breaks of modern cards and one of the funniest things to me is when people go insane "winning" a "LAUNDRY TAG" relic card. People are frothing at the mouth how lucky they are to win the 1/10 Trevor Lawrence "LAUNDRY TAG". Always makes me chuckle. . . . .congrats . . . .amazing win . . . you now own a tag that was possibly cut out from another guy's worn underwear. Something to cherish indeed. A family relic to be passed down from one generation to the next.

Or you could just wipe your ass with it.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

I could be wrong but my guess is that the submitter didn't want it to say "9" so they went with an "A only" request.

Why would anyone prefer A to 9??

[53toppscollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Why would anyone prefer A to 9??

I think its purely psychological.

This is a 1/1 so whatever grade it gets, there won't be a higher or lower grade. If it grades a 10, people will pay a lot more for it. If it grades an 8 (and PSA is very tough on thicker cards/jersey/relic cards), I think it might lose some of its luster. Grading it an A kind of splits the difference, because you as a buyer dont have any idea if there are surface issues or anything else wrong with the card when you are buying it.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Why would anyone prefer A to 9??

For a 1/1, I think the idea -from a submitter who intends to sell it immediately- would be that while a 9 discloses that the card is somehow imperfect, an A does not.

[chalupacollects]

Originally Posted by michael3322

Wonder what happens to this card's value if Lebron ever joins a 4th team and they make a new card with all 4 logomen.

It gets Brady'd...

[chalupacollects]

Originally Posted by Eric72

An ultra-modern basketball card with three pieces of fabric and three tiny images of LeBron James.

and no autograph smh...

[swarmee]

According to posters on blowout, the breaker who opened the card initially was rumored to have dropped it, damaging a corner. So the card might have graded a PSA 6, in which case, the owner requested it get an AUTH grade rather than a number.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by swarmee

According to posters on blowout, the breaker who opened the card initially was rumored to have dropped it, damaging a corner. So the card might have graded a PSA 6, in which case, the owner requested it get an AUTH grade rather than a number.

reverse psychology?

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by swarmee

According to posters on blowout, the breaker who opened the card initially was rumored to have dropped it, damaging a corner. So the card might have graded a PSA 6, in which case, the owner requested it get an AUTH grade rather than a number.

Dropped it? Wow. That’s like a $2mm fumble.

What are they saying on blowout about the price and what that says for the state of things?

[Exhibitman]

On the other hand, Goldin hyped an uggo POS made a few months ago into a big payday, regardless of whether it is $2.4 or $5.0. He's got us talking about it and about his AH, so from a PR standpoint the sale was a rousing success. Now, whether the buyer is going to profit is another story, but I want lots more shiny, expensive trinkets to distract the monied 'bros. As far as I am concerned, let all the 'bros buy all the shiny crap and stay out of vintage...at least until I am ready to sell.

[japhi]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Sorry if someone answered my prior question. Why Authentic?

Damage to the patch window is my understanding.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by japhi

damage to the patch window is my understanding.

no! Not the patch window!!!!!

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

no! Not the patch window!!!!!

I thought it was called "the hole"

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by swarmee

According to posters on blowout, the breaker who opened the card initially was rumored to have dropped it, damaging a corner. So the card might have graded a PSA 6, in which case, the owner requested it get an AUTH grade rather than a number.

Damage near one of the patches is what caught my attention. It certainly doesn't look like this would occur from being dropped accidentally.

[butchie_t]

A box of these cards. And I use the term box very loosely, contained 10 cards each and they went for 15K a box. Drake (whoever the hell he is) bought 14 boxes for a miserly sum of over 200K looking for that card and came up empty. Wonder if he threw all of those 140 cards away?

https://twitter.com/kileymcd/status/...141827041.html


Christ on a crutch, Panini, as well as other manufacturers are making a mockery of the word hobby.

Ugh,

Butch

[DaveW]

I must be slow, but I still don’t get what these patches are. Are they from game used uniforms or ? One of them looks pretty shabby - is that good or bad? I’ll go back to the 60 ‘s now . . .

[Snapolit1]

Even the print on Le Bron James looks likes crap. Or I am developing a vision disorder.

Really pretty comical all around. Not that I wouldn't mind accepting 2 million from someone.

Originally Posted by Eric72

Damage near one of the patches is what caught my attention. It certainly doesn't look like this would occur from being dropped accidentally.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Even the print on Le Bron James looks likes crap. Or I am developing a vision disorder.

Really pretty comical all around. Not that I wouldn't mind accepting 2 million from someone.

IMO owning it is an ego thing, it's pissing farther than your fellow crypto Instagramers, it doesn't really matter what the card LOOKS like. Maybe if Logan Paul won it he can laminate it and wear it around his neck like he did a million dollar Pokémon card.

[DaveW]

So, if you were to cut the little logoman off of the back of this card and then encapsulate it as “the logoman from the rare Labron James triple logoman card”, would it be worth even more money? This hobby gets sillier every day.

[butchie_t]

Originally Posted by DaveW

I must be slow, but I still don’t get what these patches are. Are they from game used uniforms or ? One of them looks pretty shabby - is that good or bad? I’ll go back to the 60 ‘s now . . .

Not exactly sure but I believe they are cut from the top portion of each jersey he wore from each team. Jerry West should be getting some sort of a commission for each of those images too. ;-)

Game used??? Probably…

Butch…

[Snapolit1]

If there was a NFT of this card I'd happily pay $3 million for it. Just sayin.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

What are they saying on blowout about the price and what that says for the state of things?

Similar to what's been said here. Way overhyped, not even the best LeBron James card you could get in the auction (the Gold /23 RC patch auto is more desirable by most), but still sold for a whopping price.

Could have been the damage to the patch window. That surface wrinkle there would have dropped the grade to a PSA 5 or so, IMO.

But yes, those logomen, according to Panini, are the original patches from game worn LeBron James Cavaliers, Heat, and Lakers jerseys. The Lakers one looks different because they now make logoman patches differently, I guess.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

If there was a NFT of this card I'd happily pay $3 million for it. Just sayin.

That's 6M in crypto.
.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by DaveW

I must be slow, but I still don’t get what these patches are. Are they from game used uniforms or ? One of them looks pretty shabby - is that good or bad? I’ll go back to the 60 ‘s now . . .

Yes, they are from game worn jerseys as the back of the card says.

[drmondobueno]

Wonder if Jerry is getting any kind of residual?

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by 53toppscollector

I think its purely psychological.

This is a 1/1 so whatever grade it gets, there won't be a higher or lower grade. If it grades a 10, people will pay a lot more for it. If it grades an 8 (and PSA is very tough on thicker cards/jersey/relic cards), I think it might lose some of its luster. Grading it an A kind of splits the difference, because you as a buyer dont have any idea if there are surface issues or anything else wrong with the card when you are buying it.

even if it's a 1 of 1 PSA 10, it has less than 6 names, therefore it is deemed garbage. I'd rather have My Zeon 400# fat china doll Panini Pollo Loco triple cheeseburger man cracked ice aqua metal Kodachrome rainbow reflection parallelogram gold base PSA 10 1 of 1. It has 19 names and is a PSA 10 1 of 1, of course.

[skelly423]

I'm sure Panini and Goldin will learn from this experience when they issue the new LeBron triple logoman 1/1 next year.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by skelly423

I'm sure Panini and Goldin will learn from this experience when they issue the new LeBron triple logoman 1/1 next year.

Panini had nothing to do with the damage which likely suppressed demand and hammer price. The card was in a protective plastic case when it was pulled. Presumably, the card was in much better condition at that point in time.

Then, something happened to the card. It almost looks like someone tried to remove one of the logoman patches.

[Peter_Spaeth]

So has the winner of this thing declared himself?

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

So has the winner of this thing declared himself?

Thought I saw on Blowout that it was group of 3 guys, at least 2 of which outed themselves on Instagram, but possibly read that wrong.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by Eric72

Damage near one of the patches is what caught my attention. It certainly doesn't look like this would occur from being dropped accidentally.

How much does the hobby box that this card came out of go for?

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

How much does the hobby box that this card came out of go for?

Probably less than before, now that the Triple Logoman has been pulled.

(in all seriousness, I'll leave the true answer to someone who actually knows this segment of the hobby)

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Leon

That's 6M in crypto.
.

This hour.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

How much does the hobby box that this card came out of go for?

I think someone said $15k. Not sure but might be one of those ones where you get 3 cards?

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by Carter08

I think someone said $15k. Not sure but might be one of those ones where you get 3 cards?

This is why I stopped buying modern cards about 10-12 years ago. I used to enjoy the thrill of the rip, but I would buy $300-$500 boxes (or in some cases single packs) and the cards would come out looking like they spent two weeks in someone's back pocket. For that kind of money, the quality control has to be better. Apparently, it's not and I'm glad I'm out.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Thought I saw on Blowout that it was group of 3 guys, at least 2 of which outed themselves on Instagram, but possibly read that wrong.

It is a 331 post thread (at the time of posting this) which on this topic is 331 too many posts for me to read but for those who care...https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1521021

[Republicaninmass]

I'm still scooping up 2001 topps heritage wax boxes. The original... beginning of heritage. The price hasnt moved in a decade!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Thought I saw on Blowout that it was group of 3 guys, at least 2 of which outed themselves on Instagram, but possibly read that wrong.

A syndicate!!

[skelly423]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

A syndicate!!

Could this be the infamous DAO someone tried to start on this site?

[maniac_73]

Originally Posted by skelly423

Could this be the infamous DAO someone tried to start on this site?

Nope


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[robw1959]

Originally Posted by DaveW

So, if you were to cut the little logoman off of the back of this card and then encapsulate it as “the logoman from the rare Labron James triple logoman card”, would it be worth even more money? This hobby gets sillier every day.

I am not really an NBA fan, but I thought Jerry West was the NBA logo man.