How to put cash value on cards

[UKCardGuy]

Another way to assess the potential current value is to use other comparable cards from the same set. If there are other similarly hard to find cards from the same set then you have data from those salws too.

I tend to compare the sales history of similar cards and then make an adjustment foe geneeal cards price changes since those sales.

Its not perfect and It doesn't completely solve your problem because the seller might not agree with your logic. But for me it helps me to assess what i think a fair price is.

[Vintage Vern]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

Another way to assess the potential current value is to use other comparable cards from the same set. If there are other similarly hard to find cards from the same set then you have data from those salws too.

I tend to compare the sales history of similar cards and then make an adjustment foe geneeal cards price changes since those sales.

Its not perfect and It doesn't completely solve your problem because the seller might not agree with your logic. But for me it helps me to assess what i think a fair price is.

Yep I tried to look at that somewhat as well. I offered him 200 said no dice they're in high demand and he wouldn't even take 250 if I offered that. Said they're in higher demand then a lesser pop Williards chocolate v100 I just bought for less with a higher grade. It sucks, but sometimes I guess you just have to pass.

[Vintage Vern]

Would anyone here pay more than $200 for a PSA 4 Vern Clemons E120? I think he wants 275 to 300. He has it listed much higher than others he has listed with same grade for some reason. Has it set at 400.

[ullmandds]

Sometimes if you want a rare card… A card with very few comps, but rarely comes up for sale.… You just have to bend over and take it like a man!!!

[jamest206]

Or get very lucky on the price! I am pretty sure I overpaid for a T206 Lundgren, but at the same time snagged a T206 Demmitt St. Louis that will grade at a 2 for 4k, when I hesitated on here for one at 6200. Timing and patience!

[RL]

I had to overpay a few times, but still did not feel like I got hosed.

Currently I am looking for a card that has several easily available, but way overpriced. For that card, every time I see it relisted, I contact the seller and let them know what I would offer a fair price since it did not sell.

They usually do not reply, or reply saying they already have more than that into the card.

[Rhotchkiss]

I just checked the card out on VCP. There are few recent comps aside from the one DJ pointed out and an SGC 2.5 for $45 in early 2000. If you ask me, the PSA 5 that DJ posted isn’t worth anywhere close to $400- that card did not double in 1.5 years - so no way a lesser card is worth anywhere close to that.

All that said, sometimes you just totally overpay if you just gotta have it. In my experience, every time I do that, another turns up shortly after and sells for much less than I paid!

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

Would anyone here pay more than $200 for a PSA 4 Vern Clemons E120? I think he wants 275 to 300. He has it listed much higher than others he has listed with same grade for some reason. Has it set at 400.

If it was a somewhat rare card I wanted for my collection I would and have overpaid. I wouldn't let 100-150 bucks over dissuade me. If you don't get it and can't find one for the next 2-3 years you'll think about it everyday on how close you came to getting one.

[RCMcKenzie]

I would say it would sell for about $100, maybe less, at auction. Clemons is a common e120. PSA 4 is not high grade for this set. You can search "e120 PSA 4" on eBay past sales and at auction sites, throw out the Hooper and Wheat prices, the star cards.

The eBay sellers that list cards at high prices are waiting for a buyer that wants it right now. It's like me going to the airport today, and buying a first class ticket to NYC. It's going to cost a lot more than planning ahead, and waiting.

I see 27 graded Clemons on sgc and psa pops combined. There are probably another 40 to 75 low grade raw ones in the wild.



I would wait, but I have overpaid before.

[Vintage Vern]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

I would say it would sell for about $100, maybe less, at auction. Clemons is a common e120. PSA 4 is not high grade for this set. You can search "e120 PSA 4" on eBay past sales and at auction sites, throw out the Hooper and Wheat prices, the star cards.

The eBay sellers that list cards at high prices are waiting for a buyer that wants it right now. It's like me going to the airport today, and buying a first class ticket to NYC. It's going to cost a lot more than planning ahead, and waiting.

I see 27 graded Clemons on sgc and psa pops combined. There are probably another 40 to 75 low grade raw ones in the wild.



I would wait, but I have overpaid before.

This is how I view it as well. I looked at other commons that have the same pop, and selling price. This is above most others in the same company for price. When people say they over paid is it double the price it should be selling at?

[drcy]

With a rarely sold card, your sale is in part establishing the price

[RCMcKenzie]

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

This is how I view it as well. I looked at other commons that have the same pop, and selling price. This is above most others in the same company for price. When people say they over paid is it double the price it should be selling at?

If you are in the hobby for the long haul, I would say wait for a better deal. If you really want the card, and plan to keep it, it's not an insane price, it's a high price.

I've been looking for a T213-1 Rhoades for 10 years and hope yepbg is the dealer that finds one, so that I have time to see it, and buy it, before someone else scoops it up.

[bnorth]

I own a lot of extremely rare cards/items. For me they are usually priced way cheaper than I would pay or way more than I want to. If I really want it I overpay and justify it to myself by remembering all the things I got super cheap.

[oldjudge]

I believe that unless they know otherwise, PSA values all non-star cards the same. Their job isn’t to know rarity, their job is to grade cards. If the card is truely rare then, as many others have said, pay what the card is worth to you and forget the guide. I have been collecting for the last 30+ years and the next time I refer to a PSA price guide will also be the first time I have ever referred to a PSA price guide.

[clamendo]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

I believe that unless they know otherwise, PSA values all non-star cards the same. Their job isn’t to know rarity, their job is to grade cards. If the card is truely rare then, as many others have said, pay what the card is worth to you and forget the guide. I have been collecting for the last 30+ years and the next time I refer to a PSA price guide will also be the first time I have ever referred to a PSA price guide.

Ditto


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[Vintage Vern]

Well basically he's stating the demand has changed since January 2022 when he sold his last PSA 4 Clemons card for $175.00 haven't verified that yet, but even if he did I doubt it gained that much value from 6 months ago. I'm going to dig to see if I can find the cert number. He may be selling the same one he claimed he got $175.00 for. I know he had them because at that time he had them priced high as well. I missed the PSA5 for $149.00 , and offered him $125 he had the 4 listed for $240 then dropes it to $200 and he declined my offer. I'm trying to justify it, but just can't even though I want the card. If it had the highest grade which is a 5 it would help. Being it's not even the top grade it makes it harder to justify. If a 5 just sold for $400 it would be different. He's a good guy, and has lots of nice stuff yepbg is his ebay name.

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

yepbg is his ebay name.

Yepbg is notorious on this site. He has been mentioned many times over the years here. He ranks up there with Deans as an eBay seller who completely overvalues his stuff.

I have dealt with Yepbg. About 4 years ago I paid way up for an e105 Wagner throwing that I needed. I think the value in 2022 has finally caught up to what I paid! But he had the card and I needed it, so I bought it. The card came on time and as described. I am almost positive I did another deal with him where I made a strong offer below his ask but above FMV and he accepted. He certainly has some nice and rare stuff and aside from price, I have had nothing but solid experiences. But he certainly prices high and he does not move much.

It all comes down to how badly do you want the card, now. Because another will 100% come up in the next 1-2 years (and Yepbg may compete against you to buy it!)