Share your contrarian hobby opinions

[jsfriedm]

Originally Posted by thatkidfromjerrymaguire

1952 Bowman is a better set than 1952 Topps for these reasons:

1. Better artwork
2. Prices aren't inflated which makes it more collectible
3. Smaller set which makes it more collectible
4. Mays is a scarce high number but still more affordable than it's Topps counterpart, despite it's better image and lower population.
5. The Stan Musial card is one of the best looking baseball cards EVER (and Topps is lacking Musial)
6. The image on the 1952 Mantle makes me think of the Mona Lisa...while the double printed Topps Mantle is sort of ugly.

OK, I'll admit the omission of Jackie Robinson in Bowman is a pretty big downside...but overall Bowman is still better.


(OK, feel free to kick me off the boards for these opinions)

+1. If only it had a Ted Williams and even, maybe, a DiMaggio.

[thatkidfromjerrymaguire]

Originally Posted by jsfriedm

+1. If only it had a Ted Williams and even, maybe, a DiMaggio.

Yes, since Bowman didn't appear to reuse any poses from prior years in 1952 (unlike some repeats from '50 to '51) it's fun to think what a new Ted Williams painting would have looked like. And yeah, a DiMaggio would have been amazing.

[NiceDocter]

Strip cards are awesome! Plus…. I don’t give a darn if they include a dotted line on the edge or not as long as they have some even borders…. And this includes Bazookas too! You are really going to pay 10x for a 9 vs an A just to see that dotted line???????

[oldjudge]

These views have evolved over time and I realize that some of my past actions are in direct conflict with them. They are mine and some or all may be incorrect or certainly subject to debate, a debate I have no interest in partaking in.

1. Set collecting is a waste of time and money. Collect the players you like and forget the others. The biggest waste of time and money is registry set collecting. This just gives you an opportunity to overpay for a 10 that on another day might have been a 9 (or an A).
2. The T206 set is the most overhyped set of all time. Some cards are nice looking (Cobb bat off, for example) but many are ugly.
3. Collecting rookie cards was a pursuit thought up by dealers to make money
4. A significant portion of high dollar signed cards are forged
5. At $10 apiece cards were a hobby, at $10,000 apiece they are an asset class.
6. A National at Atlantic City is a horrible idea
7. Cap Anson’s bust should be removed from the HOF.

Have I pissed off enough people yet, I can keep going. ��

[Republicaninmass]

Exhibits, postcards, photos, cards cut from magazines have never been as desirable, widely collected or valued as gum or candy cards. I just dont see it. Sure they have a nice image what have you, but they were not a side promotion for the gum/candy and subsequently thrown away. Hence the entire collectibility aspect of the hobby. My mom threw out my postcards...doesnt have the same ring to it.

[trambo]

T205 is a much better set than T206 and the master set of t205 is far harder to finish than a 522 of t206

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by trambo

T205 is a much better set than T206..........

Agreed! I'll take a T206 over a T206 any day.

[butchie_t]

Upper Deck and card grading forever changed the hobby of card collecting, and NOT FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE HOBBY.

[jingram058]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

These views have evolved over time and I realize that some of my past actions are in direct conflict with them. They are mine and some or all may be incorrect or certainly subject to debate, a debate I have no interest in partaking in.

1. Set collecting is a waste of time and money. Collect the players you like and forget the others. The biggest waste of time and money is registry set collecting. This just gives you an opportunity to overpay for a 10 that on another day might have been a 9 (or an A).
2. The T206 set is the most overhyped set of all time. Some cards are nice looking (Cobb bat off, for example) but many are ugly.
3. Collecting rookie cards was a pursuit thought up by dealers to make money
4. A significant portion of high dollar signed cards are forged
5. At $10 apiece cards were a hobby, at $10,000 apiece they are an asset class.
6. A National at Atlantic City is a horrible idea
7. Cap Anson’s bust should be removed from the HOF.

Have I pissed off enough people yet, I can keep going. ��

PLEASE...keep going! I agree with every word.

Calling super-whamadyne expensive cards a hobby is laughable, unless you're made out of money.

[G1911]

I could care less what some unknown person working for a company that is corrupt or incompetent or both thinks about a cards grade.

I don’t care about centering. Miscuts are better.

Creases are preferable to no creases.

95% of my vintage is not sleeved at all.

Hall of Famers are no more desirable than a common.

Jackie Robinson, Roberto Clemente, Mickey Mantle and Current Years Hot Rookie are greatly overvalued.

I’d love for the market to keep declining. Would be thrilled if it totally crashed.

Claims about cards and card sets are not true because of who makes the claim or how long they have floated about the hobby; actual evidence makes them true.

I don’t hate modern. A lot of the base looks very nice.

Non-sports are as cool as sports.

[Orioles1954]

Centering doesn’t matter.

Modern collectors deserve respect.

Obaks are way better than T206

Delongs are better than Goudey

1930s cards are more interesting than tobacco cards.

[JollyElm]

• Any Dave Kingman at-bat was the most exciting thing ever for a fan.

• The 1967 Topps Mickey Mantle is a great portrait.

• Any card/picture of Hughie Jennings showing his mouth wide open, hands flying all over the place and once again shouting, "Ee-Yah!" is a complete annoyance. You were exuberant. We get it!!!

• Jeff Kent unquestionably should've been a first-ballot Hall of Famer.

• The 1973 Topps Willie Davis card, showing him getting plinked, is the greatest piece of cardboard in history!!

[ValKehl]

For pre-War cards, collecting cards from obscure sets is more fun than collecting T206s, T205s, and 1933 Goudeys.

For post-War cards, collecting cards from regional sets is more fun than collecting Bowman & Topps. The neatest Bowman set is the 1955 TV set.

[Vintage Vern]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

These views have evolved over time and I realize that some of my past actions are in direct conflict with them. They are mine and some or all may be incorrect or certainly subject to debate, a debate I have no interest in partaking in.

1. Set collecting is a waste of time and money. Collect the players you like and forget the others. The biggest waste of time and money is registry set collecting. This just gives you an opportunity to overpay for a 10 that on another day might have been a 9 (or an A).
2. The T206 set is the most overhyped set of all time. Some cards are nice looking (Cobb bat off, for example) but many are ugly.
3. Collecting rookie cards was a pursuit thought up by dealers to make money
4. A significant portion of high dollar signed cards are forged
5. At $10 apiece cards were a hobby, at $10,000 apiece they are an asset class.
6. A National at Atlantic City is a horrible idea
7. Cap Anson’s bust should be removed from the HOF.

Have I pissed off enough people yet, I can keep going. ��

+1 on 1, 5 and 7 for me

I'll add every hobby turns into an investment that pushes out the little people that love it for hobby, and the love of the hobby for people that just have huge bank accounts. Greed kills every part of life for common people. If a card holds no value other than $$$ or prestige IMO you're an investor. Stop holding cards from people that want them for personal reasons like a local small town hero or family member or family friend just to have a complete set you care little about the cards themselves. Signed bitter pill.

[ejharrington]

Scarcity is scarcity whether designed or not.

[Exhibitman]

I hate 1962 Topps and 1955 Bowman. That wood grain is FUGLY and the cards are dull and washed out. Though I do like this card: