Ticket collectors, show us your tickets !

emergencydonut · #1 06-16-2022, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by emergencydonut

Thank you; I appreciate the extra detail there. Yes, my ticket stub has a date written in pencil on the back. I don't see it exactly in the lot picture, but it's a very similar look to those tickets. Maybe I will reach out to the seller to try to learn more. Thanks again.

Edit: I searched seller's other sold listings, and you're right, some of these tickets match the Huggins+Scott auction lot 100%, like this really obvious one. I sent the seller a message asking for more information. I also mailed Huggins and Scott, just on the off chance they might be able to shed some light on things.

Seller's response:

Hi,

All of the ticket stubs were sold on consignment from a collector's grandson. His grandfather attended every game and would date the tickets on the back of the stub at the end of every game.

Thanks,

Bobby

This seems impossible, right? Like, this guy clearly bought these tickets from the Huggins and Scott auction. Or, someone else bought them and sold them to him, but in any case, he did not actually get these from the grandson of a collector to sell on consignment. At best, he got lied to, and at worst, he's lying. Is there another way to interpret this situation?

Edit: He followed up with:

A consignor reached out to me and told me he had just acquired a collection that his grandfather had with dates on the back of the tickets. He sent me the tickets in a binder with the dates on the back and pictures with his grandfather at the games. I took the binder apart to list the tickets and sent him back the binder with the pictures. I have no clue where the consignor acquired the tickets from. I'm just going by what he said and the information that was in the binder.

I asked him for pictures of the binder and the grandfather game photos, etc, or to follow up with the consignor for such provenance information. Reply:

I'll ask the consignor. I'm fairly certain these didn't come from an auction house though. I looked at the link that you sent and they are similar, but there's numerous amounts of tickets that have that exact same stamp on it. Grand stand seats were numerous back then. Basically a general admission ticket.

For anybody following or researching this situation/seller in the future, I am 100% convinced that this seller's ticket stubs came from the Huggins and Scott auction. The paper grain signifiers match completely, as do the edge perforations/deckling. Best example of that attached (one image with green circles marking extra-obvious unique match spots).

ooo-ribay · #2 06-16-2022, 03:59 PM

I was not the winner. Healthy price!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/29502410378...p2047675.l2557

19802008Phillies · #3 06-16-2022, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by emergencydonut

Seller's response:

Hi,

All of the ticket stubs were sold on consignment from a collector's grandson. His grandfather attended every game and would date the tickets on the back of the stub at the end of every game.

Thanks,

Bobby

This seems impossible, right? Like, this guy clearly bought these tickets from the Huggins and Scott auction. Or, someone else bought them and sold them to him, but in any case, he did not actually get these from the grandson of a collector to sell on consignment. At best, he got lied to, and at worst, he's lying. Is there another way to interpret this situation?

Edit: He followed up with:

A consignor reached out to me and told me he had just acquired a collection that his grandfather had with dates on the back of the tickets. He sent me the tickets in a binder with the dates on the back and pictures with his grandfather at the games. I took the binder apart to list the tickets and sent him back the binder with the pictures. I have no clue where the consignor acquired the tickets from. I'm just going by what he said and the information that was in the binder.

I asked him for pictures of the binder and the grandfather game photos, etc, or to follow up with the consignor for such provenance information. Reply:

I'll ask the consignor. I'm fairly certain these didn't come from an auction house though. I looked at the link that you sent and they are similar, but there's numerous amounts of tickets that have that exact same stamp on it. Grand stand seats were numerous back then. Basically a general admission ticket.

For anybody following or researching this situation/seller in the future, I am 100% convinced that this seller's ticket stubs came from the Huggins and Scott auction. The paper grain signifiers match completely, as do the edge perforations/deckling. Best example of that attached (one image with green circles marking extra-obvious unique match spots).

Interesting and thanks for passing on the info. They are 100% the same tickets, others have compared photos like you did so they did come from the H&S auction. I noticed the eBay seller does seem to be a reseller for all kinds of items so the story they are sharing could be legit as to �what they were told�. I find it hard to believe H&S would not include the fact that they were hand dated on the back, especially since therre were some big moments in there. I�m not sure if you searched all the sold eBay listings from this situation but the seller sold $10k+ of these things so it�s a bit more than a little white lie in my opinion. Maybe next step for you would be to ask H&S if they were dated and came in grandpas binder? If no, they�d know who the buyer was.

emergencydonut · #4 06-17-2022, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 19802008Phillies

Interesting and thanks for passing on the info. They are 100% the same tickets, others have compared photos like you did so they did come from the H&S auction. I noticed the eBay seller does seem to be a reseller for all kinds of items so the story they are sharing could be legit as to �what they were told�. I find it hard to believe H&S would not include the fact that they were hand dated on the back, especially since therre were some big moments in there. I�m not sure if you searched all the sold eBay listings from this situation but the seller sold $10k+ of these things so it�s a bit more than a little white lie in my opinion. Maybe next step for you would be to ask H&S if they were dated and came in grandpas binder? If no, they�d know who the buyer was.

Thanks for the reply; always appreciated. I sent the seller the comparison images, and he preemptively refunded me without need of returning the ticket. I do hope that he is being on the level, and maybe someone sold him a doctored-up binder of tickets with fake backstories. That's possible, I guess. If that ends up being true, you would hope he'd contact other buyers and refund them, as well.

I did also mail H&S, at two of their email addresses, and shared my concerns and asked for more information. No reply yet.

Seller's refund message:

I haven't heard back from the consignor yet, but I'm going to send you a full refund for the ticket stub. I don't want you unhappy or have regrets with your purchase so you can just keep it free of charge. Customer service is our number one priority and I take that very seriously. I've never had an issue with a consignor before and I just don't see how it's possible to have all of the information he had in that binder. Anyways, I apologize for any inconvenience, and I'll definitely let you know when I hear back from him. Thanks for your business and hope you have a great night.

71buc · #5 06-18-2022, 06:28 PM

1995 Game 5 ALDS ticket.

guy3050 · #6 06-23-2022, 04:27 PM

Just got this one back from getting framed, Tony Gwynn signed 3000th hit photo and signed 3000th hit full season ticket.

Scott Garner · #7 06-24-2022, 11:31 PM

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Just got this one back from getting framed, Tony Gwynn signed 3000th hit photo and signed 3000th hit full season ticket.

Very nice, Guy!
Tony Gwynn was awesome!!
Believe it or not, he was a neighbor of a close friend of mine that lived in Poway, CA. I used to literally walk by Gwynn's front door.
Baseball royalty IMHO.

It's a tragedy that he passed away so young.

Jewish-collector · #8 06-25-2022, 12:03 PM

On March 19, 1966, Texas Western College (now the University of Texas at El Paso) started -- for the first time in NCAA basketball championship history -- five black players against an all-white Kentucky team at Cole Field house in College Park, Maryland. In a game that has come to represent a breakthrough for blacks in college sports, the Miners of Texas Western defeated the Wildcats for the championship. A movie, "Glory Road," based on the 1966 team, was released nationwide on January 2006. Ticket stub below:
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mr2686 · #9 06-26-2022, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Garner

Very nice, Guy!
Tony Gwynn was awesome!!
Believe it or not, he was a neighbor of a close friend of mine that lived in Poway, CA. I used to literally walk by Gwynn's front door.
Baseball royalty IMHO.

It's a tragedy that he passed away so young.

Tony was a great guy. He drove through the Poway taco bell one day when we had some time off between softball tournament games. He stopped and chatted briefly. Top notch class guy.

5-Tool Player · #10 07-17-2022, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by guy3050

Just got this one back from getting framed, Tony Gwynn signed 3000th hit photo and signed 3000th hit full season ticket.

Nice....Very Nice....great autograph and ticket

jimjim · #11 06-23-2022, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 71buc

Mission accomplished added Junior�s autograph to this 1995 Game 5 ALDS ticket.

Great looking ticket! Awesome job!

71buc · #12 06-24-2022, 10:33 PM

Thanks Matthew