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[19802008Phillies]

Originally Posted by emergencydonut

Thanks for the info. Was it this lot, by chance? I can't find any others that look like what you're describing. I guess this will just be wasted money then, if there's no way to really date the ticket to any particular game, and maybe the seller was dishonest. Unfortunate.

Your link is correct. They match up exactly if you compare. Several collectors reached out the seller and were told that they were consigned and the consigner had the story about the person keeping records and writing the dates on the back. Did the one you won have the date written on the back of it? I would certainly not hesitate to reach out to the seller and attempt a return if you are not happy.

[ksfarmboy]

Just added this ticket to my Wichita and Kansas collection.

[Scott Garner]

Nice Clint! Perfect for your collection.

[emergencydonut]

Originally Posted by 19802008Phillies

Your link is correct. They match up exactly if you compare. Several collectors reached out the seller and were told that they were consigned and the consigner had the story about the person keeping records and writing the dates on the back. Did the one you won have the date written on the back of it? I would certainly not hesitate to reach out to the seller and attempt a return if you are not happy.

Thank you; I appreciate the extra detail there. Yes, my ticket stub has a date written in pencil on the back. I don't see it exactly in the lot picture, but it's a very similar look to those tickets. Maybe I will reach out to the seller to try to learn more. Thanks again.

Edit: I searched seller's other sold listings, and you're right, some of these tickets match the Huggins+Scott auction lot 100%, like this really obvious one. I sent the seller a message asking for more information. I also mailed Huggins and Scott, just on the off chance they might be able to shed some light on things.

[ksfarmboy]

Thanks Scott!

[emergencydonut]

Originally Posted by emergencydonut

Thank you; I appreciate the extra detail there. Yes, my ticket stub has a date written in pencil on the back. I don't see it exactly in the lot picture, but it's a very similar look to those tickets. Maybe I will reach out to the seller to try to learn more. Thanks again.

Edit: I searched seller's other sold listings, and you're right, some of these tickets match the Huggins+Scott auction lot 100%, like this really obvious one. I sent the seller a message asking for more information. I also mailed Huggins and Scott, just on the off chance they might be able to shed some light on things.

Seller's response:

Hi,

All of the ticket stubs were sold on consignment from a collector's grandson. His grandfather attended every game and would date the tickets on the back of the stub at the end of every game.

Thanks,

Bobby

This seems impossible, right? Like, this guy clearly bought these tickets from the Huggins and Scott auction. Or, someone else bought them and sold them to him, but in any case, he did not actually get these from the grandson of a collector to sell on consignment. At best, he got lied to, and at worst, he's lying. Is there another way to interpret this situation?

Edit: He followed up with:

A consignor reached out to me and told me he had just acquired a collection that his grandfather had with dates on the back of the tickets. He sent me the tickets in a binder with the dates on the back and pictures with his grandfather at the games. I took the binder apart to list the tickets and sent him back the binder with the pictures. I have no clue where the consignor acquired the tickets from. I'm just going by what he said and the information that was in the binder.

I asked him for pictures of the binder and the grandfather game photos, etc, or to follow up with the consignor for such provenance information. Reply:

I'll ask the consignor. I'm fairly certain these didn't come from an auction house though. I looked at the link that you sent and they are similar, but there's numerous amounts of tickets that have that exact same stamp on it. Grand stand seats were numerous back then. Basically a general admission ticket.

For anybody following or researching this situation/seller in the future, I am 100% convinced that this seller's ticket stubs came from the Huggins and Scott auction. The paper grain signifiers match completely, as do the edge perforations/deckling. Best example of that attached (one image with green circles marking extra-obvious unique match spots).

[ooo-ribay]

I was not the winner. Healthy price!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/29502410378...p2047675.l2557

[19802008Phillies]

Originally Posted by emergencydonut

Seller's response:

Hi,

All of the ticket stubs were sold on consignment from a collector's grandson. His grandfather attended every game and would date the tickets on the back of the stub at the end of every game.

Thanks,

Bobby

This seems impossible, right? Like, this guy clearly bought these tickets from the Huggins and Scott auction. Or, someone else bought them and sold them to him, but in any case, he did not actually get these from the grandson of a collector to sell on consignment. At best, he got lied to, and at worst, he's lying. Is there another way to interpret this situation?

Edit: He followed up with:

A consignor reached out to me and told me he had just acquired a collection that his grandfather had with dates on the back of the tickets. He sent me the tickets in a binder with the dates on the back and pictures with his grandfather at the games. I took the binder apart to list the tickets and sent him back the binder with the pictures. I have no clue where the consignor acquired the tickets from. I'm just going by what he said and the information that was in the binder.

I asked him for pictures of the binder and the grandfather game photos, etc, or to follow up with the consignor for such provenance information. Reply:

I'll ask the consignor. I'm fairly certain these didn't come from an auction house though. I looked at the link that you sent and they are similar, but there's numerous amounts of tickets that have that exact same stamp on it. Grand stand seats were numerous back then. Basically a general admission ticket.

For anybody following or researching this situation/seller in the future, I am 100% convinced that this seller's ticket stubs came from the Huggins and Scott auction. The paper grain signifiers match completely, as do the edge perforations/deckling. Best example of that attached (one image with green circles marking extra-obvious unique match spots).

Interesting and thanks for passing on the info. They are 100% the same tickets, others have compared photos like you did so they did come from the H&S auction. I noticed the eBay seller does seem to be a reseller for all kinds of items so the story they are sharing could be legit as to ‘what they were told’. I find it hard to believe H&S would not include the fact that they were hand dated on the back, especially since therre were some big moments in there. I’m not sure if you searched all the sold eBay listings from this situation but the seller sold $10k+ of these things so it’s a bit more than a little white lie in my opinion. Maybe next step for you would be to ask H&S if they were dated and came in grandpas binder? If no, they’d know who the buyer was.

[emergencydonut]

Originally Posted by 19802008Phillies

Interesting and thanks for passing on the info. They are 100% the same tickets, others have compared photos like you did so they did come from the H&S auction. I noticed the eBay seller does seem to be a reseller for all kinds of items so the story they are sharing could be legit as to ‘what they were told’. I find it hard to believe H&S would not include the fact that they were hand dated on the back, especially since therre were some big moments in there. I’m not sure if you searched all the sold eBay listings from this situation but the seller sold $10k+ of these things so it’s a bit more than a little white lie in my opinion. Maybe next step for you would be to ask H&S if they were dated and came in grandpas binder? If no, they’d know who the buyer was.

Thanks for the reply; always appreciated. I sent the seller the comparison images, and he preemptively refunded me without need of returning the ticket. I do hope that he is being on the level, and maybe someone sold him a doctored-up binder of tickets with fake backstories. That's possible, I guess. If that ends up being true, you would hope he'd contact other buyers and refund them, as well.

I did also mail H&S, at two of their email addresses, and shared my concerns and asked for more information. No reply yet.

Seller's refund message:

I haven't heard back from the consignor yet, but I'm going to send you a full refund for the ticket stub. I don't want you unhappy or have regrets with your purchase so you can just keep it free of charge. Customer service is our number one priority and I take that very seriously. I've never had an issue with a consignor before and I just don't see how it's possible to have all of the information he had in that binder. Anyways, I apologize for any inconvenience, and I'll definitely let you know when I hear back from him. Thanks for your business and hope you have a great night.

[71buc]

1995 Game 5 ALDS ticket.

[guy3050]

Just got this one back from getting framed, Tony Gwynn signed 3000th hit photo and signed 3000th hit full season ticket.

[jimjim]

Originally Posted by 71buc

Mission accomplished added Junior’s autograph to this 1995 Game 5 ALDS ticket.

Great looking ticket! Awesome job!