T205 - The Elusive Gold Gilded Set

[brianp-beme]

I decided to jump the gun and get a little productive, and based upon all the great suggestions I have received, and several that I increased from a '1' value on my own, I have included below a proposed updated list. I have italicized the cards that have changed in value. The new Elusive Gold Standard total comes to 389.

I would like to get the total to 400. Let me know if I missed any 1 point value cards that you think should be boosted, as well as any other higher value cards that need, well, higher values. But also tell me if I went too far, and if any need to get smacked down.

And a question for rats60...did you mean Dahlen instead of Daubert? I sometimes get these two Brooklyn 'Da' players mixed in my head. I have a similar problem with a couple of pitchers too, Rucker and Reulbach. And don't get me started on Doolan and Dooin.

Brian


Cards with EGS value of 2:

Adkins, Doc ML

Barger, Cy - partial B on cap

Batch, Emil ML

Bender, Chief

Bresnahan - mouth closed

Brown, Mordecai

Cady, Hick ML

Chance, Frank

Chase - border on shirt

Chase - no border on shirt

Clarke, Fred

Collins, Eddie - mouth closed

Daubert, Jake

Donohue, Jiggs SP

Dougherty - red sock

Dougherty - white sock

Duffy, Hugh

Dunn, Jack ML

Evers, Johnny

Ford, Russ - white cap

Frick, James ML

Graham, Peaches - Cubs

Grant, Ed SP

Gray, Dolly - no stats

Griffith, Clarke

Hanford, Charles ML

Harmon, Robert - only left ear shows

Hoblitzell, Dick - name incorrect/no Cin. After 1908

Hoblitzell, Dick - name correct/no Cin. After 1908

Huggins, Miller

Jennings, Hugh

Karger, Ed SP

Kleinow, Red SP

Latham, Arlie - W.A. Latham on back

Lee, Wyatt ML

Leifield, Lefty - A.P. Leifield on front

Marquard, Rube

McAllister, Sport ML

McGraw, John

Merritt, George ML

Nee, John ML

Phelan, James ML

Rowan, John SP

Scanlan, Doc SP

Shean, David - Cubs

Suggs, George SP

Sweeney, Jeff SP

Tinker, Joe

Vaughn, Hippo SP

Wagner, Heinie SP

Wallace, Bobby - with cap

Wheat, Zack

White, Kirb SP

Wiltse, Hooks - only right ear shows


Cards with EGS value of 3:

Baker, Frank

Chase, Hal - only left ear shows

Cicotte, Eddie

Collins, Eddie - mouth open

Collins, Jimmy ML

Dahlen, Bill SP

Fisher, Ray SP

Raymond, Bugs SP

Turner, Terry SP

Wallace, Bobby - no cap/2 lines of 1910 stats


Cards with EGS value of 4:

Bresnahan, Roger - mouth open

Gray, Dolly - stats on back

Speaker, Tris

Walsh, Ed SP

Wilhelm, Kaiser - suffe ed in 18th line of bio SP


Cards with value of 5 or more (EGS in parenthesis):

Cobb, Ty (12)

Hoblitzell, Dick - no stats on back (20)

Johnson, Walter (6)

Joss, Addie SP (8)

Mathewson, Christy (6)

Mathewson, Christy - Cycle Back, incorrect stats (12)

Moran, Pat - stray line of type (5)

Wallace, Bobby - no cap - 1 line of 1910 stats (5)

Wilhelm, Kaiser - suffered in 18th line of bio (8)

Young, Cy (7)

[familytoad]

If you added a single eggs point to the last 15 cards you’d have the round 400 number.
I think with this set the tougher 15 that you have are truly worth another bump.

The 1 pointers are “over easy” and the others are “hard” (boiled)”
But I’ve been accused of being “scrambled “ in the past.

[rats60]

Brian,

I meant Daubert. Both Dahlen and Daubert are tough cards and deserve to be worth more than 1 point. Cy Young is also tougher than WaJo and Matty and should be worth more, as you originally had them. I would agree with Family Toad to add more points to the highest value cards, except WaJo and Matty (regular).

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by familytoad

If you added a single eggs point to the last 15 cards you’d have the round 400 number.
I think with this set the tougher 15 that you have are truly worth another bump.

The 1 pointers are “over easy” and the others are “hard” (boiled)”
But I’ve been accused of being “scrambled “ in the past.

Brian, I have to figure out an acceptable (to my brain) 'G' word to make your 'EGGS' scenario work. Give me a couple of minutes/hours/days/weeks.

And I like your idea of pumping up the volume on the tougher EG(G)S cards. I would definitely like to solicit more suggestions on the other cards on the list if any deserve a little tweaking, before tacking on points to the toughies.

Originally Posted by rats60

Brian,

I meant Daubert. Both Dahlen and Daubert are tough cards and deserve to be worth more than 1 point. Cy Young is also tougher than WaJo and Matty and should be worth more, as you originally had them. I would agree with Family Toad to add more points to the highest value cards, except WaJo and Matty (regular).

Thanks rats60, I never realized that Daubert was tougher than a regular T205 card...I just thought there was more demand because of his popularity/this being one of his earliest cards. I will definitely boost the boy right now. And I will award Cy Young with an extra point. If anyone deserves an extra point it is him. In fact I might just name the act of giving a card an extra EG(G)S point the Cy Young Award.

Keep the flow flowing folks.

Brian

[brianp-beme]

Under an hour. The Elusive Gold Gilded Standard.

Brian

[familytoad]

Kraken me up!
Wait , am I in the wrong thread?

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by familytoad

Kraken me up!
Wait , am I in the wrong thread?

No you are not, but nary a Land Monster or Sea Monster to be seen here. What you probably didn't realize is that the name has slightly shifted to the Elusive Gold Gilded Set. Still the EGGS you and the rest of the collecting world have come to love, but now just better. Perhaps its slogan can be "The Elusive Gold Gilded Set - The Gold Standard of Tobacco Cards"

Brian

[Yoda]

I love everything about the T205 set, always have, but I wish, like many, that the set included more top shelf HOF'ers, such as Larry Lajoie