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Old 05-13-2022, 03:28 PM
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The new Bagger's Auction has a few Robert Goulds.
I am guessing not a single Kodak backing will be present at this auction.

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Old 05-13-2022, 04:21 PM
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I will first say I do not know Ken or anyone at Goldin Auctions personally. He has not contacted me. I am Switzerland, as neutral as they get, what makes me a fine umpire. Call 'em as I see 'em.

I am however, like the 2004 Red Sox, a self proclaimed idiot. Actually, others proclaim that as well.

I have consigned and purchased from the following auction houses:

Goldin
REA
Heritage
Hunt
Love of the Game
Lelands
SCP
Memory Lane
MEARS
Huggins & Scott

I repeat I have consigned & purchased from all of those. Not sure how many others can say that and I know no one personally at any of these auction houses.

They have all made mistakes in listings, in shipping charges and/or had their Sites crash during bidding, shit happens. I have seen several other auction houses crash and burn, Legendary, Crazy Uncle, 2 others I'm drawing a blank that were being investigated for something not good as well are through.

The bad ones, whether by karma or what have you, are gone. Thank God!

The ones above I first mentioned are still in business because they handle their errors well. I will still consign to any of them and I will still buy from any of them.

Goldin is one THEE best!!!! Best selection, Best results, Best customer service!

I will get nothing for saying this, don't want anything for saying this. I call 'em like I see 'em.

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Old 05-13-2022, 04:24 PM
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Goldin is one THEE best!!!! Best selection, Best results, Best customer service!

I will get nothing for saying this, don't want anything for saying this. I call 'em like I see 'em.
Out of curiosity, have you ever received an email informing you that they've looked up where you work?
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Old 05-13-2022, 04:31 PM
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Out of curiosity, have you ever received an email informing you that they've looked up where you work?
Without question, a direct email like that from the owner of any auction house or business deserves an immediate apology. Look, we all get frustrated at times, but this crosses a serious line.
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Old 05-13-2022, 04:48 PM
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These people giving Ken Goldin a pass personally need their head examined.. TRY LOOKING HIM UP FOR CHRIST SAKE.

The scoreboard ROBBED countless grandmothers years back with fake signed items during the last boom, then filed bankruptcy

From google. ""No other individual has done so much to screw over so many in this hobby. Ken Goldin was the man in charge at the now defunct Score Board, Inc. Many believe Ken Goldin pushed out countless product with autograph redemptions that he knew he wouldn't have to honor once Score Board, Inc. filed for bankruptcy. He left collector's holding now worthless redemption vouchers for the very same product he now often sells on Shop At Home for severely inflated amounts. "

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These people giving Ken Goldin a pass personally need their head examined.. TRY LOOKING HIM UP FOR CHRIST SAKE.

The scoreboard ROBBED countless grandmothers years back with fake signed items during the last boom, then filed bankruptcy

From google. ""No other individual has done so much to screw over so many in this hobby. Ken Goldin was the man in charge at the now defunct Score Board, Inc. Many believe Ken Goldin pushed out countless product with autograph redemptions that he knew he wouldn't have to honor once Score Board, Inc. filed for bankruptcy. He left collector's holding now worthless redemption vouchers for the very same product he now often sells on Shop At Home for severely inflated amounts. "

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Old 05-13-2022, 05:01 PM
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Someone once told me, "arrogance and ego will sometimes override common sense."

Yes, this situation was embarrassing for Goldin Auctions. We all get that. However, take responsibility and move on. People will respect you much more when you do. There was no reason to go back at the buyer. We all know these sites exists and people post their good and bad experiences.

When things are handled the right way, the first time, threads like this won't grow into what they do.

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Old 05-13-2022, 09:01 PM
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I had been told by sr members of the forum I shouldn’t post, because it will just attract more attention to the thread and negative comments from haters. However, after seeing this post I need to address it
The statement below is an outright lie.
You can simply look at the autograph section of this forum and find old threads about counterfeit score board COAs being produced in the MILLIONS after they went bankrupt. Score board itself had the athletes under contract and sold authentic autographs. Tony posada from ‘my favorite players’ ( the guy who was arrested at the national in for selling fakes ) and others counterfeited COAs and sold them with fake auto items. People coming into the hobby in late 1990s and after buy an item with a fake COA, see my name or my late fathers who died in 1994 and was on COAs prior to me..have it fail jsa or PSA and think SB sold a fake auto.
Tons of threads to confirm this , or you can go ask steve grad for example, or Tim Fitzsimmons retired FBI agent and author of ‘operation bullpen’ to confirm this . Just stop spreading this lie .
https://live.autographmagazine.com/p...seller-vintara

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...ke-autographs/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Autographs/...c_i_know_they/


https://twitter.com/steve_grad/statu...BBKjazqS5vyT_g

http://thejuniorjunkie.blogspot.com/...board-inc.html

With respect to redemptions, as has been previously addressed on this and other forums, that was a decision made by the bankruptcy court. I negotiated a $5.4 million cash payment to allow a phone company (frontier communications) to buy SB out of a phone card deal, in addition they forgive over $1 million in accounts receivables. This was a massive cash windfall for score board. As you can see by the Bloomberg article from 1997, the company was profitable at the time, profit in q3, AND going to report a MASSIVE profit in Q4 as a result of the deal in excess of $5.5 million. Instead of using the money to fund the company and purchase product , the company which at that time was controlled by TL ventures ( a division of then Public company safeguard scientific) Did not want to write down their investment and used the money to reduce long-term debt so that the company can remain listed on the NASDAQ which did no good for the company except maintain a nasdaq listing. Since it remained on Nasdaq they did not have to write down their debt….however, as the debentures were not coming due until 5 years later (2002) there was no sound business reason to do this deal and the cash should have been used to fund day to day operations. ] I was outraged and resigned effective immediately. After I resigned what happened was exactly what I expected to happen when they made a stupid decision, the company ran out of cash and declared bankruptcy. The bankruptcy court decided instead of filling redemptions that redemption holders were unsecured creditors and the product was sold to pay secured creditors. Again, this is 100% confirmed by facts you can read in link below and elsewhere. Just tired of seeing the same old comments by people who search bloggers and forum posters on the internet posting years later with no idea of the facts.

Note in the article my resignation was a ‘shock’

https://www.bloomberg.com/press-rele...ntier-agree-to

https://www.bizjournals.com/philadel...26/story5.html

For those of you who took the time to read this and actually go to the links and see 100% of what I stated is factual and not based on internet I appreciate you doing so.

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These people giving Ken Goldin a pass personally need their head examined.. TRY LOOKING HIM UP FOR CHRIST SAKE.

The scoreboard ROBBED countless grandmothers years back with fake signed items during the last boom, then filed bankruptcy

From google. ""No other individual has done so much to screw over so many in this hobby. Ken Goldin was the man in charge at the now defunct Score Board, Inc. Many believe Ken Goldin pushed out countless product with autograph redemptions that he knew he wouldn't have to honor once Score Board, Inc. filed for bankruptcy. He left collector's holding now worthless redemption vouchers for the very same product he now often sells on Shop At Home for severely inflated amounts. "

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Old 05-13-2022, 09:50 PM
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I for one appreciate you staying engaged on this forum. In regards to your reply to Teds comment, I've built a couple of businesses, nowhere near the level you have but I understand the dynamic. I have a former business partner who is going through what you went through, he too blames it on former business partners and the BK court, the discussions we have are about personal responsibility or "what decisions did you make that resulted in a bankrupt company?". It's interesting to talk with him, he's filled with ego and hubris to a fault and that led to his downfall. I'm just a working class collector so I'm not really in your high class demo but for me when I talk to Brian at REA or Al at LOTG I'm confident they have my best interest at heart and their integrity is unquestionable. Your schtick might be profit at all cost to sell your company to the highest bidder, which is okay, it's just a different business model. Personally I don't spend my money with you for those reasons but you don't need my money anyway, and if Brian or Al ever posted a "Ken Goldin, Ken Goldin" video on YouTube I would question spending my money with them. Again, I'm a small potatoes old school collector that gets satisfaction from the incredible relationships I've made in this great hobby, and not one of them had anything to do with money.
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