Goldin Auctions - thanks for fast resolution to issue

[ullmandds]

from my experience ken is quite responsive on the forum.

[Casey2296]

Might want to have a discussion with that consignor...

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Might want to have a discussion with that consignor...

With a bullwhip...

[D. Bergin]

Hard to tell from the pictures, either here or on the Goldin site.

Was the photo paper (and other blank backs listed in the auction), used as mounting for the cards (ie. the cards are glued to the photo paper), or were the Gould cards...holes, creases, folds and all, simply printed on the paper?

Obviously it would be easy to tell in hand, I just can't tell from the pictures.

Even if they are real cards, glued on makeshift backing boards, that should have been revealed in the auction...rather then giving a general VG/EX condition representation.

[Tabe]

Are these actually mounted to the photo paper?

[raulus]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Hard to tell from the pictures, either here or on the Goldin site.

Was the photo paper (and other blank backs listed in the auction), used as mounting for the cards (ie. the cards are glued to the photo paper), or were the Gould cards...holes, creases, folds and all, simply printed on the paper?

Obviously it would be easy to tell in hand, I just can't tell from the pictures.

Even if they are real cards, glued on makeshift backing boards, that should have been revealed in the auction...rather then giving a general VG/EX condition representation.

What I suspect happened here is that some enterprising collector took pictures from online, printed them out, and then pasted some of them onto a cardboard backing. For the 6 that are included in the pictures above, they didn't bother to mount them onto cardboard, and just left them directly on the photopaper after printing them.

The cards, creases, rubber-band notches, corner wear, and other attributes are entirely printed onto the paper. In some cases, the cardboard backing doesn't even match up very well with the edges of the photopaper. To make it even more exciting, the color of the cardboard on the back is of completely different quality and color from card to card. I've attached some additional pics here to hopefully show some of the details, since inquiring minds need to know.

If we want to be charitable, perhaps the person who originally constructed this set did so simply for their own collecting enjoyment. Later, perhaps after their demise, a relative decided to consign them in an auction. Certainly that would be a better fact pattern than the creator of these items consigning them directly after their creation.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by raulus

What I suspect happened here is that some enterprising collector took pictures from online, printed them out, and then pasted some of them onto a cardboard backing. For the 6 that are included in the pictures above, they didn't bother to mount them onto cardboard, and just left them directly on the photopaper after printing them.

The cards, creases, rubber-band notches, corner wear, and other attributes are entirely printed onto the paper. In some cases, the cardboard backing doesn't even match up very well with the edges of the photopaper. To make it even more exciting, the color of the cardboard on the back is of completely different quality and color from card to card. I've attached some additional pics here to hopefully show some of the details, since inquiring minds need to know.

If we want to be charitable, perhaps the person who originally constructed this set did so simply for their own collecting enjoyment. Later, perhaps after their demise, a relative decided to consign them in an auction. Certainly that would be a better fact pattern than the creator of these items consigning them directly after their creation.

Ok, that's quite a boondoggle by the auction house then. If you can't be bothered to see if the rubber band holes in the cards, are actually holes or not...somebody was in quite the rush to get that lot done quickly.

At least they are going to make you whole without too much of a hassle.

I'd have to agree, it's probably somebody's old fantasy project that got swept up and sent to auction by somebody that didn't know any better, and somehow got by all the checkpoints without anybody weeding it out.

[Johnny630]

Mistakes happen. I give them a lot of credit for promptly taking care of you by making it right. I don't mind mistakes when they're owned and honest. Case here with Goldin.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

from my experience ken is quite responsive on the forum.

+1 Agreed

Sad the mistake happened and hopefully they put procedures in place from happening again but errors do and did happen

At least they are responsive and making it right