OT -- Information about Bra-Mac Photo Cards...

[jingram058]

There are over 200 Bra-Mac photos on eBay right now. The vast majority for sale by "fritschscardauctions" at 2 to 3 times what other sellers are asking. Looks like they are copies of photos with Dymo labels applied to the originals.

[Milt Herbert]

Yes, they are copies of George Brace black and white photos that will colorized by Bill MacAlister. I went to Bill's house and saw how he did the colorization. He had files cabinets of a large quantity of George Brace postcards. They were in a partnership together in doing the Bra-Mac sets.

[whiteymet]

Hi Gang:

What can anyone tell me about a Bra-Mac card in B&W?

See the Kelleher below side by side color/B&W same pose different cropping.

Are other B&W's with the Dymo labels known?

[VintageLEV]

I recently acquired a collection that included the entire 288 card set (plus the 12 Bra-Mac Bonus cards) still in the original envelopes in which they were sent. I compiled a checklist including the collation of each envelop and post mark date. I offered the checklist to TCDB however while they include numerous "photo pack" images in their database they concluded the set does not constitute cards as is it printed on photo paper.

[Leon]

Old thread, go Archives! Just don't get sued...(inside joke)

That's interesting on these photo cards. There isn't a lot of difference between a photo and a card, sometimes. I am a card guy though, so everything looks like a card to me!

Originally Posted by VintageLEV

I recently acquired a collection that included the entire 288 card set (plus the 12 Bra-Mac Bonus cards) still in the original envelopes in which they were sent. I compiled a checklist including the collation of each envelop and post mark date. I offered the checklist to TCDB however while they include numerous "photo pack" images in their database they concluded the set does not constitute cards as is it printed on photo paper.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by VintageLEV

I recently acquired a collection that included the entire 288 card set (plus the 12 Bra-Mac Bonus cards) still in the original envelopes in which they were sent. I compiled a checklist including the collation of each envelop and post mark date. I offered the checklist to TCDB however while they include numerous "photo pack" images in their database they concluded the set does not constitute cards as is it printed on photo paper.

There is no logic involved in what TCDB will allow to be posted.

I was denied adding m114s even though they have some m114s listed as Baseball Magazine photos. They gave me the same "they are not cards" excuse, and when I pointed out that they already had m114s listed (and had allowed me to scans to their listings), and have other similar "not cards" listed, they told me those listing were a mistake.

I deleted my account.

I appreciate the concept of what they claim to be trying to do, but since my collection does not fit within their definition of "cards" besides their as yet uncorrected "mistake" listing, they have no interest in any knowledge I may possess.

I hope I don't get sued by the Trading Card Data Bruce(s).

Doug

[Leon]

I would have thought having an ACC number might sway them. I haven't really used their site but others have said good stuff about it.

Fred- That is a neat black and white Bra-Mac. Those kinds of things don't surprise me anymore as they are usually only printing errors. We have all seen them over the years. Then too, sometimes a black and white set can be it's own, ie: E97 black and whites (not proofs)

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

There is no logic involved in what TCDB will allow to be posted.

I was denied adding m114s even though they have some m114s listed as Baseball Magazine photos. They gave me the same "they are not cards" excuse, and when I pointed out that they already had m114s listed (and had allowed me to scans to their listings), and have other similar "not cards" listed, they told me those listing were a mistake.

I deleted my account.

I appreciate the concept of what they claim to be trying to do, but since my collection does not fit within their definition of "cards" besides their as yet uncorrected "mistake" listing, they have no interest in any knowledge I may possess.

I hope I don't get sued by the Trading Card Data Bruce(s).

Doug

[Spike]

Originally Posted by VintageLEV

I recently acquired a collection that included the entire 288 card set (plus the 12 Bra-Mac Bonus cards) still in the original envelopes in which they were sent. I compiled a checklist including the collation of each envelop and post mark date. I offered the checklist to TCDB however while they include numerous "photo pack" images in their database they concluded the set does not constitute cards as is it printed on photo paper.

I'm happy to post about that set on SABR's baseball card blog, if you're willing to share your work on checklist. That audience should appreciate checklist details, in particular any shots of those original envelopes! DM if that sounds good and we'll work out details?

[rhettyeakley]

TCDB is a useful site sometimes BUT they steal images and info from wherever they can find them without giving any credit. Not sure why do that but they do.

They went to my website and essentially stole all the images I have of my Zeenut collection and have added them to their site without ever letting me know. 🤣

I honestly do not like uploading images on my site anymore because of it.

I realized this when I was looking at a card on TCDB and said “wow that looks just like my copy” …then realized they had stolen (likely) a thousand+ images.

Kind of a shitty thing to do actually.

[Spike]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

TCDB is a useful site sometimes BUT they steal images and info from wherever they can find them without giving any credit. Not sure why do that but they do.

They went to my website and essentially stole all the images I have of my Zeenut collection and have added them to their site without ever letting me know. 🤣

I honestly do not like uploading images on my site anymore because of it.

I realized this when I was looking at a card on TCDB and said “wow that looks just like my copy” …then realized they had stolen (likely) a thousand+ images.

Kind of a shitty thing to do actually.

Was that for a gallery like this 1919 set?

https://www.tcdb.com/ViewCard.cfm/si...e-Nut-NNO-Ally

If so, a mix of people uploaded those images, including these members. Each image links to the person who uploaded it.

https://www.tcdb.com/Profile.cfm/styxscottii
https://www.tcdb.com/Profile.cfm/ComposerMike

I believe individuals submit all card images to TCDB, so if you'd prefer cards that belong to you are removed, try asking TCDB to strike them using a page's "See any inaccuracies?" link. You might also ask in their forum what options exist.

https://www.tcdb.com/Forums.cfm