Future National Locations - Same Old Story

[Johnny630]

Arguments have been the logistical reason to include, parking, hotel accommodations size etc. ... we have heard this for over the past 10 years now... why hasn’t there been a solution to figure this out by now. Is it the old guy in the office who says, hey bud face it it’s been this way for years, accept it. Me personally, I Hope we get away from this complacent thinking. How about finding a cool new solution, maybe hire a Logistic Consultant specializing in event location planning..idk.

[Snapolit1]

As an east coaster, I'd love to have a National in California in LA or SF or Anaheim area. Would be great to see games out there at the same time.

How could Vegas not work? Whole freakin' world has conventions in Vegas.

I used to work at a large international firm that has annual partner conference. I realize from speaking to people involved in the process that these things are a lot more complex that many people (including myself) imagine.

Many of you know from business travel that it's frequently cheaper to get a ticket to NY or Chicago than it is to get to Pittsburgh, St. Louis or Iowa City. If airline tickets are prohibitively high that could really cut into attendance.

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

As an east coaster, I'd love to have a National in California in LA or SF or Anaheim area. Would be great to see games out there at the same time.

How could Vegas not work? Whole freakin' world has conventions in Vegas.

Personally I can't think of a worse place than California in my mind, but I think Vegas is a great idea and it would really be an event. Also a fan of a Dallas show.

Even south to Tampa or the NC, SC, Virginia area.

[Yoda]

I keep pining for Orlando, Fl. Admitedly, I live in South Florida so am probably prejudiced, but it could easily attract collectors from the S/E as well as TX and OK. It is a hub and the amenities abound, that is if our governor hasn't put out hit contracts on Mickey, Goofy and Donald.
Chicago and Cleveland are too close in proximity, hardly serving a national collector base, while AC is a cess pool, crime, drugs and hookers and logistically tough to reach unless you are driving.
I know Mike wished to draw a cross section of the population by trying to move it around, e,g, Atlanta and wish the present Committee would have a more open mind about the next go round.

[steve B]

Arizona...

Call it cardpocalypse and hold it at the burning man site in the black rock desert. All flea market style.
Table discounts for yellowed toploaders.
Bonus discounts if they have dust in them that goes back to the Reagan administration.

[Rich Klein]

Originally Posted by Yoda

I keep pining for Orlando, Fl. Admitedly, I live in South Florida so am probably prejudiced, but it could easily attract collectors from the S/E as well as TX and OK. It is a hub and the amenities abound, that is if our governor hasn't put out hit contracts on Mickey, Goofy and Donald.
Chicago and Cleveland are too close in proximity, hardly serving a national collector base, while AC is a cess pool, crime, drugs and hookers and logistically tough to reach unless you are driving.
I know Mike wished to draw a cross section of the population by trying to move it around, e,g, Atlanta and wish the present Committee would have a more open mind about the next go round.

I know it was in the 1990's but the 2 Atlanta shows were frankly speaking absolutely terrible

My favorite locations for the NSCC based on being able to attend or deal and have things within walking distance have been

Chicago/Rosemont
St. Louis
Baltimore
Anaheim

San Francisco back in 1987 was not bad on that level

[Casey2296]

Las Vegas seems to be a viable option, they're in the business of hosting conventions. SF is just a sh*t hole now.

[KCRfan1]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Las Vegas seems to be a viable option, they're in the business of hosting conventions. SF is just a sh*t hole now.

So is LA.

Be prepared to spend all your savings on hotel rooms and nothing at the event.

Cali is a terrible option IMO. Some will disagree, but for the masses there are better options.

[ZenPop]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Las Vegas seems to be a viable option, they're in the business of hosting conventions. SF is just a sh*t hole now.

Nice to see rampant ignorance is still in the air. 🙄

Enough with the ignorant clown comments.

[19cbb]

Orlando, please.

Originally Posted by Yoda

I keep pining for Orlando, Fl. Admitedly, I live in South Florida so am probably prejudiced, but it could easily attract collectors from the S/E as well as TX and OK. It is a hub and the amenities abound, that is if our governor hasn't put out hit contracts on Mickey, Goofy and Donald.
Chicago and Cleveland are too close in proximity, hardly serving a national collector base, while AC is a cess pool, crime, drugs and hookers and logistically tough to reach unless you are driving.
I know Mike wished to draw a cross section of the population by trying to move it around, e,g, Atlanta and wish the present Committee would have a more open mind about the next go round.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by 19cbb

Orlando, please.

Definitely no crime, drugs or hookers in South Florida. No sir. Clean as a whistle.

[rajah424]

Orlando is a long way from South Florida

[jcmtiger]

Originally Posted by Yoda

I keep pining for Orlando, Fl. Admitedly, I live in South Florida so am probably prejudiced, but it could easily attract collectors from the S/E as well as TX and OK. It is a hub and the amenities abound, that is if our governor hasn't put out hit contracts on Mickey, Goofy and Donald.
Chicago and Cleveland are too close in proximity, hardly serving a national collector base, while AC is a cess pool, crime, drugs and hookers and logistically tough to reach unless you are driving.
I know Mike wished to draw a cross section of the population by trying to move it around, e,g, Atlanta and wish the present Committee would have a more open mind about the next go round.

I agree, I am in Ft Myers

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by JustinD

Personally I can't think of a worse place than California in my mind, but I think Vegas is a great idea and it would really be an event. Also a fan of a Dallas show.

Even south to Tampa or the NC, SC, Virginia area.

Tampa in February. "The Winter National" Works for me. I will arrange a Net 54 event at the Mons Venus club.

[jcmtiger]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Tampa in February. "The Winter National" Works for me. I will arrange a Net 54 event at the Mons Venus club.

I would go for Tampa too.

[jiw98]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Tampa in February. "The Winter National" Works for me. I will arrange a Net 54 event at the Mons Venus club.

A Winter National in Tampa or even Orlando would be fine with me. I'm sure that I could find some time to go in between rounds.

[notfast]

Chicago is the perfect location. Easy access to hotel, airport, food, entertainment etc.

It should be there annually.

Also, Baltimore will never happen again.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Tampa in February. "The Winter National" Works for me. I will arrange a Net 54 event at the Mons Venus club.

The NHRA might have a problem with that name.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Arguments have been the logistical reason to include, parking, hotel accommodations size etc. ... we have heard this for over the past 10 years now... why hasn’t there been a solution to figure this out by now. Is it the old guy in the office who says, hey bud face it it’s been this way for years, accept it. Me personally, I Hope we get away from this complacent thinking. How about finding a cool new solution, maybe higher a Logistic Consultant specializing in even location planning..idk.

But the counter argument will be. "It ain't broke, why fix it? You want us to sacrifice a known quantity that is amazingly successful for an unknown quantity in the hopes that it will be at least as good?"

[timzcardz]

When it's yours, then you can do what ever you want with it. They must being doing something right. You don't get to 42 by messing up.

And if that's not good enough for you, then why not step right up and start an even bigger and better one, perhaps The Continental Sports Collectors Convention! You could even rotate in Canada and Mexico too.

[nineunder71]

I would feel safer in Russia than Atlantic City

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by nineunder71

I would feel safer in Russia than Atlantic City

Interesting. I've been going to AC for 40 years and never had an incident.

Lots of people are experts on New York City, Atlantic City and even Chicago crime who have either never been there or have been there once 17 years ago.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Interesting. I've been going to AC for 40 years and never had an incident.

Lots of people are experts on New York City, Atlantic City and even Chicago crime who have either never been there or have been there once 17 years ago.

I can say from experience that the most dangerous place in AC is the craps table

[darkhorse9]

How about Nashville.

They can handle it and the city is a day's driving trip away from a pretty much half the entire nation.

[rand1com]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Arguments have been the logistical reason to include, parking, hotel accommodations size etc. ... we have heard this for over the past 10 years now... why hasn’t there been a solution to figure this out by now. Is it the old guy in the office who says, hey bud face it it’s been this way for years, accept it. Me personally, I Hope we get away from this complacent thinking. How about finding a cool new solution, maybe hire a Logistic Consultant specializing in event location planning..idk.

They sell out every table every year in the current venues. They have all of the floor layouts in place for these 3 venues as well as all other logistics. They get the Atlantic City convention center for a pittance of what the others cost. They sold out of tickets last year for the show except daily admission. Why would they change a winner for themselves. This show is their living.

I have done the National for the last 12 years and I can assure you I would vote for Chicago every year. In fact, I just did on their new dealer vote for the next 3 years. I live 14 hours from Chicago, 12 hours from Cleveland, and 10 hours from Atlantic City so obviously I am willing to drive further for the Chicago market.

They will not make a drastic change to the venues. No Dallas, no St. Louis, no Las Vegas, no Orlando. Forget about it. It will not happen.

They will not risk a loser when they currently have 3 automatic winners.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

A lot of the venues named likely don't accept bookings several years in advance.