Pwcc Csg partnership

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

It’s one of the most talked about things in the hobby. It’s not in the shadows…

A person who is guilty of wrongdoing and a person who has been convicted of a crime are different things. That PWCC has not been charged or convicted does not mean the mountains of evidence are untrue.

An example of the "burden of proof" logical fallacy, eh?

You, me, and countless others know damn well what the truth is. It doesn't matter who denies it, and it's a waste of time arguing with them.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

An example of the "burden of proof" logical fallacy, eh?

I think we're moving away from logical fallacies and bad faith arguments into "straight up lying" territory now

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

I think we're moving away from logical fallacies and bad faith arguments into "straight up lying" territory now

Yes but it's couched in logical fallacy terms -- he hasn't been charged or convicted therefore he didn't do anything wrong.

BTW do innocent people choose to cooperate with the FBI?

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Yes but it's couched in logical fallacy terms -- he hasn't been charged or convicted therefore he didn't do anything wrong.

BTW do innocent people choose to cooperate with the FBI?

Ok logical fallacies aside we have to agree with you that pwcc is the worst actor based on the number of posts here. Done and done.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Carter08

Ok logical fallacies aside we have to agree with you that pwcc is the worst actor based on the number of posts here. Done and done.

Think whatever you want, but base it on facts.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Carter08

Ok logical fallacies aside we have to agree with you that pwcc is the worst actor based on the number of posts here. Done and done.

Any evidence you have to refute any claim that has been made would be welcome. A logical argument at least would also be welcome.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Yes but it's couched in logical fallacy terms -- he hasn't been charged or convicted therefore he didn't do anything wrong.

BTW do innocent people choose to cooperate with the FBI?

We should cut them some slack, after all being a PWCC shill is a very difficult task these days

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

We should cut them some slack, after all being a PWCC shill is a very difficult task these days

It's interesting, for years, people vehemently defended PWCC. One "The Scandal" really came to light, virtually nobody did. Now, people seem to be doing so again, or at least in the lukewarm sense of claiming it's all an unproven conspiracy theory, or saying they're no worse than everyone else in the hobby, etc.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It's interesting, for years, people vehemently defended PWCC. One "The Scandal" really came to light, virtually nobody did. Now, people seem to be doing so again, or at least in the lukewarm sense of claiming it's all an unproven conspiracy theory, or saying they're no worse than everyone else in the hobby, etc.

This behavior is why, personally, I think the best detective work was the work on modern cards that are serial numbered. The unique serializing makes it entirely undeniable that these cards were, in fact, the exact same card and clearly trimmed. Which is probably why we see nobody actually challenge the evidence itself, simply throw absurd illogical statements around and try to lump in the documentation of PWCC's guilt with conspiracy theories. When you got nothing else to throw, throw bull!@#$

[G1911]

Well we got through 104 posts before Godwin's law was proven yet again.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

This behavior is why, personally, I think the best detective work was the work on modern cards that are serial numbered. The unique serializing makes it entirely undeniable that these cards were, in fact, the exact same card and clearly trimmed. Which is probably why we see nobody actually challenge the evidence itself, simply throw absurd illogical statements around and try to lump in the documentation of PWCC's guilt with conspiracy theories. When you got nothing else to throw, throw bull!@#$

Repeating what I said in another thread as it seems relevant here.

Keep in mind that with strict rules of evidence and a very high burden of proof, not all crimes can be successfully prosecuted in court. At one point Brent Huigens was a cooperating witness and his rumored decision not to cooperate may have changed the prosecutor's calculus. If indeed this is all over from the criminal justice angle, and we don't know that, I think evidentiary considerations likely were more the reason than either the FBI or the prosecutor considering this unimportant. Prosecutors only like to pursue cases they feel they have a strong chance of winning. The evidence in the court of public opinion is quite different from what is admissible in court. They couldn't just put up screenshots of Blowout threads.

All speculation of course.

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