Pwcc Csg partnership

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by G1911

When did anyone ever say that PWCC is the sole bad actor? I have argued they are the main bad actor now, in the present, because they are committing more active and recent fraud than anyone else in the public record. However, I argued this after you started complaining about a little joke at a fraudsters expense.

If the Mets complete this combined no hitter I’ll agree.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Carter08

If the Mets complete this combined no hitter I’ll agree.

That's what I thought.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by G1911

That's what I thought.

Mets did complete the no no so I won’t go into it more other than to say you’re funny.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Carter08

Mets did complete the no no so I won’t go into it more other than to say you’re funny.

Well of course, you can't go into it more because the written record shows absolutely nobody said what you are claiming people said.

[Rich Klein]

Here is my question

CSG has the deal with EBay to be the authenticator of those raw cards above "X" dollars

CSG now has a deal with PWCC whom EBay unceremoniously kicked off their site.

I just find that dichotomy interesting

Rich

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by G1911

Well of course, you can't go into it more because the written record shows absolutely nobody said what you are claiming people said.

So your “point” is there are a lot places doing bad things but pwcc is somehow the worst of them? Just want to be clear.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Carter08

So your “point” is there are a lot places doing bad things but pwcc is somehow the worst of them? Just want to be clear.

You make it seem arbitrary with "somehow the worst of them." There is much more compelling evidence of PWCC wrong-doing in the last 10 years than anyone else. Does that mean everyone else is innocent? No, but unless another company is simply MUCH better at hiding their fraudulent acts it's not mysterious why PWCC is currently considered "the worst of them." Of course there are competitors for the title like Coach's Corner, Crazy Uncle etc. but they are very small fish when you look at their numbers in comparison to PWCC.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Carter08

So your “point” is there are a lot places doing bad things but pwcc is somehow the worst of them? Just want to be clear.

My point was a short sarcastic joke implying that a card grader hooking up with the most famous grading fraudsters of this era is probably not a good thing, spawning rage from the apparent PWCC shills.

After your third complaint about this, I said that PWCC and their ring has been proven to alter more cards than anyone else ever has been proven too. I said they are the biggest publicly known and evidenced fraud ring in the hobby right now, today. This is why they get negative comments; massive fraudsters tend to make people who are aware of their fraud not like them.

This is not difficult. I have said my point very explicitly and briefly several times. Go do your homework or produce your evidence that any of this is untrue. Show us where anyone here said that PWCC is the sole bad actor in the hobby. I have no idea how you think that saying "PWCC runs a fraud ring" means Peter and/or I are saying that nobody else is guilty of fraud or other card-related offenses. That is not a rational argument whatsoever.

[Peter_Spaeth]

For reference, the comment that spawned this round of the discussion.

"For me, I just don’t understand why the claims agains pwcc gain more traction than those against others. Maybe the volume is higher and it’s justified I guess. Just seems like there’s a pick and choose that might not be justified."