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Old 04-26-2022, 09:15 PM
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OK, something more difficult.

29 subjects from the Old Judge set have been inducted into the BB HOF. Most of the players died before the HOF began inducting players (1936), still more would perish before being honored, however, four held on long enough to see their enshrinement, name them.
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OK, something more difficult.

29 subjects from the Old Judge set have been inducted into the BB HOF. Most of the players died before the HOF began inducting players (1936), still more would perish before being honored, however, four held on long enough to see their enshrinement, name them.
That's a hard one, Joe. I went 1 for 4. (I won't embarrass myself by listing all of them) 🤓
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I think its Connie Mack, Hugh Duffy
Clark Griffith and Kid Nichols. Haven't double checked.
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Old 04-26-2022, 09:56 PM
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Great job Brian, you nailed it.

Connie Mack, class of 1937, died in 1956 at 93
Hugh Duffy, class of 1945, died in 1954 at 87
Clark Griffith, class of 1946, died in 1955 at 85
Kid Nichols, class of 1949, died in 1953 at 83
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My answer way back when about the youngest player was correct as far as we knew at the time, but research added five years onto the age of Bill Bishop since then. He's not the youngest player in the set, as a large number of players in the set were younger than 22 when they appeared. Nat Hudson appears to be the correct answer now, though some birth dates for minor league players are unknown
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I just started reading the thread. Holy crap, I had Nichols, Mack, Griffith and Duffy. My goodness, that thread had been buried for a long time.
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Of the 29 HOFers depicted in the OJ set, how many (and who) never lived to see the 20th century?
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Of the 29 HOFers depicted in the OJ set, how many (and who) never lived to see the 20th century?
King Kelly is one.
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Great job Brian, you nailed it.

Connie Mack, class of 1937, died in 1956 at 93
Hugh Duffy, class of 1945, died in 1954 at 87
Clark Griffith, class of 1946, died in 1955 at 85
Kid Nichols, class of 1949, died in 1953 at 83
For anyone who complains about the current Hall voters, there are few mistakes more egregious than taking 14 years to induct Kid Nichols. I don't expect many people will agree with me, but Nichols was the single best player of the 19th century.
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And it's not like they weren't putting in 19th century players...in 1946 the veteran's committee selected Tommy McCarthy who is right up there among the worst inductees. If you subscribe to WAR he is not only 65 places behind Harold Baines as a right fielder, but he is behind two people selected as managers (Southworth and Stengel). Granted I am using modern analytics, but even his traditional statistics are unremarkable. Just looking at 19th and early 20th century right fielders who were better: it took Sam Crawford until 1957 to get in and Sam Thompson until 1974.
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For anyone who complains about the current Hall voters, there are few mistakes more egregious than taking 14 years to induct Kid Nichols. I don't expect many people will agree with me, but Nichols was the single best player of the 19th century.
I think he may have been the best pitcher who played solely in the 19th century. However, I think Delahanty and George Wright were the two greatest 19th century players.
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Bobby—My guesses would be Brouthers, Tip O’Neal, and Billy Hamilton
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Jay, you have two out of the three, including the #1 player that Fred also had.

Hamilton is #1 (.455) and Brouthers is #2 (.423). Other guesses before I give a hint?

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I think he (Kid Nichols) may have been the best pitcher who played solely in the 19th century. However, I think Delahanty and George Wright were the two greatest 19th century players.
I just wanted to point out that Kid Nichols pitched in the major leagues 1890-1901 and 1904-1906; his career was not confined to the 19th Century.
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