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the news is scary but sadly I am sure there are others going on as we speak. and new attempts coming soon.
Especially as the values continue to grow the money potential for these people is to much to resist. Power of this forum and knowledge will hopefully help prevent some of it or at least prevent some people from getting burned.
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https://rehs.com/eng/2020/07/henkel-hoax/
HENKEL HOAX July 10, 2020 An alleged forgery ring is unraveling after authorities garnered enough evidence to obtain a search warrant for artist Donald “D.B” Henkel’s property in Traverse City, Michigan. According to reports, the FBI began investigating the artist after learning he was involved in the sale of fake works said to be by notable 20th Century American artist to U.S. galleries, collectors, and museums. Conservators confirmed that materials used in these “rediscovered” works did not exist during the period in which they were supposedly created. These forgers did not only use their talents in the art world, but ventured in the world of sports memorabilia. According to one article: Since 2015, two accused co-conspirators have sold a purported Babe Ruth bat for $60,000 and a Lou Gehrig bat for $120,000, according to the FBI agent. Most of the money was sent to Henkel and another person. The FBI affidavit does not say the bat was counterfeit. The timing of the Gehrig bat auction and price tag appears to match one sold by Hunt Auctions of Pennsylvania. According to the listing, the Gehrig bat belonged to a descendant of a bat boy who had met the New York Yankees legend. With that, 30 FBI agents raided the home, seizing a number of undisclosed items. No arrests have been made… yet. Source: In north Michigan woods, feds raid an alleged upscale art forgery factory Source: FBI Raids Alleged Art Forgery Ring in Michigan Woods |
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Really happy I never went heavy into autographed stuff. Just seemed way to sketchy. I don't care who your authenticator is, the science is shaky if non-existent, and some of the people doing it are sketchy as hell.
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I've purchased a few autographs. Nothing too significant, price wise, but it's certainly a dangerous game.
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That day is soon on the horizon. I have lived for decades in China and other parts of Asia and have seen it all on fakes and how good the technology is becoming. There are really bad fakes in Asia and really really good ones, and everywhere in between. A region that fakes cars, lettuce, eggs, contact lens cleaner, clothes, shoes, toothpaste and on and on and on, will also fake trading cards. In fact, its already started.
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This has already been going on for decades.
Last edited by bnorth; 04-23-2022 at 06:19 AM. |
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and sadly will keep going on for decades more
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Let me make a clarification then to my original post, we can still tell with a certain degree what cards are real and what are fake. When the day comes that the real and the fake are indistinguishable, then we have a problem.
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Old news look at coaches corner this will never end never
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Of course cards aren't exactly a clean hobby segment either.
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Donald G Henkel? He created and produced the tabletop game Call Pitch Baseball in 1974 out of his location in Trenton Michigan (south of Detroit, opposite corner of the state from Traverse City). https://www.flickr.com/photos/artsyt/2672701310
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