Baseball Is Dying

[maniac_73]

Pulling Kershaw in the middle of a perfect game is another way that baseball isn’t doing itself any favours. Ridiculous


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[boysblue]

That device actually speeds up the game.

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Can you explain please?

[jamest206]

Eventually we will all be old, and retirement will be spent watching a lot of baseball on television. The options are much better now, and boy would my grandma from Depression era Arkansas be jealous of the options now.

Salaries for baseball, an entire roster is how much a year? Granted there is the minor league system, but you have stadiums half to larger than NFL stadiums. Tickets for Rockies games are pretty cheap, the team always sucks or is sub par, but that stadium, built as a monument to the game when I was a kid never gets old going to. No bad seats, super cheap tickets, like any stadium. You only need X amount sellouts and concessions to match an NFL team who gets 8? Home games plus preseason.

It isn’t going anywhere, and looking forward to what the new era looks like next year!

[richtree]

I think baseball will hit the wall at some point.

There are so many things that baseball players and the culture of baseball do, that really are not necessary.

I always thought it would fall apart, but it was an opportunity to revive in a newer way that can last into the future.

Some thoughts I had after playing baseball in college and not really watching too often are:

1. Make all stadiums have retractable domes
2. Standardize the work week 5 games a week (all teams play on the same days) same amount of games in a month, etc... (this makes new records too)
3. Make fantasy sports friendly (the above will help it)
4. This one I am debating --- make a speed clock that if the teams are tied after 9 innings, the "faster" team wins
5. Let the teams use technology for signs (pitches, stealing, etc.) like a Bluetooth ear piece so there isn't all this looking at the 3rd base coach or stealing of signs
6. Shorten the season but allow ALL THE TEAMS INTO A GIANT PLAYOFF -- make the division winners get multiple byes, and much harder for the last team to get in, but all those games in August of 4place teams vs. 5th place teams mean nothing...



idk.....but me, personally, all the stats mean nothing --- lets have fun and make a new beginning......

*also that makes the historical greats more mythical

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by richtree

5. Let the teams use technology for signs (pitches, stealing, etc.) like a Bluetooth ear piece so there isn't all this looking at the 3rd base coach or stealing of signs

They already have this for pitchers.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by richtree

I think baseball will hit the wall at some point.

There are so many things that baseball players and the culture of baseball do, that really are not necessary.

I always thought it would fall apart, but it was an opportunity to revive in a newer way that can last into the future.

Some thoughts I had after playing baseball in college and not really watching too often are:

1. Make all stadiums have retractable domes
2. Standardize the work week 5 games a week (all teams play on the same days) same amount of games in a month, etc... (this makes new records too)
3. Make fantasy sports friendly (the above will help it)
4. This one I am debating --- make a speed clock that if the teams are tied after 9 innings, the "faster" team wins
5. Let the teams use technology for signs (pitches, stealing, etc.) like a Bluetooth ear piece so there isn't all this looking at the 3rd base coach or stealing of signs
6. Shorten the season but allow ALL THE TEAMS INTO A GIANT PLAYOFF -- make the division winners get multiple byes, and much harder for the last team to get in, but all those games in August of 4place teams vs. 5th place teams mean nothing...



idk.....but me, personally, all the stats mean nothing --- lets have fun and make a new beginning......

*also that makes the historical greats more mythical

I always thought hitting contest to decide extra innings would be a good idea. or you get to pick your hitter and other team pitcher and whoever can hit the ball the farthest on 3 pitches.....if nobody gets a hit but one guy took a ball while the other one had 3 fouls/strikes then then the one that took at least one ball wins

could always do just a traditional home run hitting contest as well...

[Hankphenom]

The Washington Nationals are about to be sold, rumors are in the $2 billion range. They paid MLB $400 million for the franchise in 2006.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

The Washington Nationals are about to be sold, rumors are in the $2 billion range. They paid MLB $400 million for the franchise in 2006.

right the real value is in the franchise value, but there are billionares that love the idea of owning a team and dont care if 'overpaying' heck look whats going on with Twitter..

[sreader3]

Originally Posted by maniac_73

Pulling Kershaw in the middle of a perfect game is another way that baseball isn’t doing itself any favours. Ridiculous


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Yes, this was terrible. In part I blame Kershaw for not insisting that he be left in. Only 80 pitches through seven innings and 23 perfect games in baseball history!

[jingram058]

Originally Posted by sreader3

Yes, this was terrible. In part I blame Kershaw for not insisting that he be left in. Only 80 pitches through seven innings and 23 perfect games in baseball history!

Total prima Donna BS. Tell me again how great baseball is. Rooting for this metrics-driven, corporate, robotic MLB these days is like rooting for Bernie Madoff, denying he did anything wrong, even admiring all his accomplishments. Then he got caught.

[JustinD]

Going back to previous comments, I honestly do not find the length of games a deterrent to future fandom.

I admit that the length has almost completely stopped my ballpark trips and it is unlikely that I will return due to the ease of watching from home, better views, the fanbase after the 6th inning with consumption, as well as a bathroom line that satisfies my old man prostate needs, lol.

The one change I would like to see is some (what I would consider easier changes to eliminate wasted time) limits to pitching changes and stepping out of the box to dink around with swings. Abuse of leaving the box should equal a strike added to the count.

[jingram058]

Now that all of the fun has been sucked completely out of it, "the game" is nothing but money. I'm done. I should have been done with the strike of '94, as so, so many others were. Dying? It's dead! All that's left is a corporation.

[Deertick]

Originally Posted by jingram058

Now that all of the fun has been sucked completely out of it, "the game" is nothing but money. I'm done. I should have been done with the strike of '94, as so, so many others were. Dying? It's dead! All that's left is a corporation.

Above is paraphrased from a 1925 beat reporter. Also, each of his successors.

[Hankphenom]

I'm still waiting for someone to prove to me that the old system, whereby pitchers were expected to finish their games unless they were really getting knocked around, produced worse results than bringing in relievers after low pitch counts compared to the old days. I don't understand how anybody can look at the records of hundreds of old-time pitchers, and not just the special ones, and not at least question the modern strategy. Were the old-timers actually worn out in the later innings and costing their teams games before the light bulb went off in some manager's head with the idea of replacing them before that happened, or did good pitchers more frequently get into grooves whereby they were throwing just as well in the eighth, ninth, and sometimes eleventh, twelfth, or even fifteenth or sixteenth innings! I Want to see SABR-type analysis of the comparison between yesteryear and today. Which was actually more effective?

[sreader3]

Originally Posted by jingram058

Total prima Donna BS. Tell me again how great baseball is. Rooting for this metrics-driven, corporate, robotic MLB these days is like rooting for Bernie Madoff, denying he did anything wrong, even admiring all his accomplishments. Then he got caught.

"Metrics-driven": I love it. I am a stats geek.

"Corporate": Not sure what this means. Most private enterprise these days involves corporations. Hell, I was a one-person corporation for 18 years while I was practicing law. Perhaps you would prefer that baseball be run by the federal government? They do such a great job! I can only imagine the new regs.

"Robotic": Again, not sure what this means. Last time I checked, there were no robots on the MLB diamond. Just flesh and bones fielders, batters, umps and coaches with all of their human foibles.

"Bernie Madoff": I never rooted for Bernie Madoff. The guy made-up stats and defrauded his clients of hundreds of millions of dollars. I haven't seen that in baseball. In baseball, you can watch the game and track the stats. No fraud so far as I can tell. Just big business, big contracts, big money--which you perhaps don't like.

Baseball is rather like our country. Fundamentally sound and flawed; worth preserving and improving.

[jingram058]

Originally Posted by sreader3

"Metrics-driven": I love it. I am a stats geek.

"Corporate": Not sure what this means. Most private enterprise these days involves corporations. Hell, I was a one-person corporation for 18 years while I was practicing law. Perhaps you would prefer that baseball be run by the federal government? They do such a great job! I can only imagine the new regs.

"Robotic": Again, not sure what this means. Last time I checked, there were no robots on the MLB diamond. Just flesh and bones fielders, batters, umps and coaches with all of their human foibles.

"Bernie Madoff": I never rooted for Bernie Madoff. The guy made-up stats and defrauded his clients of hundreds of millions of dollars. I haven't seen that in baseball. In baseball, you can watch the game and track the stats. No fraud so far as I can tell. Just big business, big contracts, big money--which you perhaps don't like.

Baseball is rather like our country. Fundamentally sound and flawed; worth preserving and improving.

For all your puffed-up enthusiasm, baseball is still undeniably dying.

[Snapolit1]

As I sat in the Citifield parking lot yesterday for an hour after the game ended waiting to move my car a few more inches I stayed calm by just repeated to my self over and over “baseball is dying ….. baseball is dying ….. baseball is dying”.

[jingram058]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

As I sat in the Citifield parking lot yesterday for an hour after the game ended waiting to move my car a few more inches I stayed calm by just repeated to my self over and over “baseball is dying ….. baseball is dying ….. baseball is dying”.

How much was your ticket(s)? How much did you pay to park? Did you purchase beer, soda, peanuts, hot dogs, or any of that? Was it a sellout on a Friday night? How long did the game last? Was it fun? Finally, I haven't checked, did the Mets win?