Anyone ever see 1952 scraps mid series with high # backs

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by deweyinthehall

It seems especially odd, if not downright impossible to explain (although I'm sure someone here can) how the back of a card from one series could be over-printed with the back of a card from a later series. Were both series in production at the same time?

I think there is a general misunderstanding of printing scrap. This is not a “printing error” per say. Scraps are strictly junk sheets sitting around the print shop to toss in and out of the presses to check alignment and such. I have examples showing many different runs, different sets, and even different years.

The idea of a specific print run is not necessary and should be thrown out the window.

Here’s a fun sample of printing scrap from 1948 Bowman from my collection.

The base card has a gray background which tells you that it is hand cut and out the back door for 1948 Basketball.

The second photo shows the fiasco on the reverse. As the third photo shows, the printer used this sheet for a bit.

The first layer is the reverse for the base card of #68 Lee Knorek 1948 Bowman. Next layer is the front of the #5 Margaret Field card from the 1948 Bowman Movie Stars series. Final layer is a really late run at the factory, the reverse of case no 5, $2,000,000 of stolen securities from the 1949 Bowman America Salutes The FBI - Heroes of the Law.

Scrap paper is scrap paper at the factory.

[JustinD]

For example this is some of my scrap from a single series. More common, but multiple scrap sheets are not crazy uncommon when you look every day like me. However, I admit my weird tendencies, lol.

( sorry I couldn’t get the photo right side up on my iPad)

[Bestdj777]

The miscut Jackie Robinson with a sliver of Mantle showing brought $71K. I’d imagine prices on yours would be really strong since you’ve got a full back. Probably not the same range but definitely would get a strong return. I wouldn’t be surprised if it brought 5 figures.

[Cliff Bowman]

This took some work and a LOT of eye straining, but here is the breakdown of each card:
Ralph Branca has 274 Branca and inverted 327 Archie Wilson printed on the back.
Harry Brecheen has 263 Brecheen and inverted 395 Jake Pitler printed on the back.
Sid Gordon has 267 Gordon and inverted 344 Ewell Blackwell printed on the back.
Bob Addis has 262 Virgil Trucks printed over 337 Jim Hearn on the back, 259 Addis is not on the back.
Phil Cavarretta has 286 Joe DeMaestri printed over 363 Dick Rozek on the back, 295 Cavarretta is not on the back.
Murry Dickson has 266 Dickson and inverted 345 Sammy White printed on the back.
Gil Coan has 290 Joe Astroth printed over 367 Bob Thorpe on the back, 291 Coan is not on the back.
Luis Aloma has 273 Erv Palica printed over 385 Herman Franks on the back, 386 Ed Yuhas is partially on the back, 308 Aloma is not on the back.
Hank Arft has 284 Arft and inverted 399 Jim Fridley printed on the back.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Bestdj777

The miscut Jackie Robinson with a sliver of Mantle showing brought $71K. I’d imagine prices on yours would be really strong since you’ve got a full back. Probably not the same range but definitely would get a strong return. I wouldn’t be surprised if it brought 5 figures.

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Hard to say what happens. I have a pretty good wrong back that I tried to consign a year ago and couldn't get any bites:

[Bestdj777]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

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Hard to say what happens. I have a pretty good wrong back that I tried to consign a year ago and couldn't get any bites:

Great card. I’m surprised a DiMaggio fan didn’t go for it. For this one, being that it is Mantle, his faux rookie card, and his complete 52 Topps are basically unobtainable for most, I’d still expect it would bring ridiculous money, although likely not near the one I mentioned.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by JustinD

For example this is some of my scrap from a single series. More common, but multiple scrap sheets are not crazy uncommon when you look every day like me. However, I admit my weird tendencies, lol.

( sorry I couldn’t get the photo right side up on my iPad)

Awesome print offset Mickey Mantle. The big print offsets are some of my favorite cards.

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Awesome print offset Mickey Mantle. The big print offsets are some of my favorite cards.

Mine also, I definitely like the Aaron I have seen you post.

I have hundreds and of course, the more severe the better. As an art collector as well, there just is that sweet spot like the Mantle shows in which it just starts hitting the Warhol vibes and I just love it.

[Exhibitman]

I also see value in severe miscuts




I always look for them at shows. Most dealers consider them junk so they sell for a fraction of what the card would sell for in 'normal' state.

Here are a few spiritual brothers to the 1964 Mantle:





I actually pulled one from a pack as a kid and I was pissed. Now I'd be intrigued.