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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth
Ruth Speaker Wagner Gehrig Cobb Hornsby and many others do JUST FINE under sabermetrics. Sisler is the only one I can think of he rates notably lower than some of the traditional rankings, maybe Heilmann too.
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Wasn't pointing out Sisler specifically, but speaking in general. And my comments are not directed at you. The way you bring him up though shows you can usually find an exception or two to anything, but that doesn't really prove anything. Some people will latch onto exceptions like that though and keep repeating it ad nauseum, to drown out those that don't automatically always agree with them. That seems to be the thing about statistics and statisticians, when something doesn't neatly fit and go along with their numbers, it is everyone else that is wrong or doesn't get it. God forbid their formulas or equations could ever be wrong. So, they will rationalize away how they and their numbers are always right, and everyone else is wrong. There is a reason Sisler's contemporaries and peers put him into the HOF
It is funny how people will argue that someone like Koufax should be the greatest lefty of all-time because he had a few peak years he was so great. Well look what happened to Sisler's career after he missed a year for health reasons, why doesn't he get the same peak years consideration that Koufax often gets? In addition, Sisler should be even more deserving of such consideration, his weaker years were likely due to health issues. What took Koufax so long till the latter part of his career to finally figure out what the hell he was doing. If Koufax was so great, you would expect him to be good from the start. Of course, some contrarian troll will probably jump on and whine about how I'm wrong because Koufax was a pitcher and Sisler wasn't, so it isn't the same thing for them. And that is exactly the kind of horse $hit they throw around to keep making themselves always look like they're right, while everyone else is always wrong.
03-31-2022, 06:00 PM
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