Old Holders

[Leon]

TPGs have tightened their standards over time. But that doesn't mean some older slabbed cards are over graded. Many are but some aren't.

I think this should warrant a 2.5!


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[Pat R]

The Grader was pretty lenient on this newly graded Cicotte.

SGC overgrade.jpg

[Santo10Fan]

I actually just bought an old PSA holder off ebay, not pre-war tho. Looked like the grade was spot on.

[Fred]

I've heard different opinions on old holders and new holders and in my opinion, for PSA and SGC, they graders are as subjective in the past as they are now. Translation - same consistently inconsistent grading. Some cards seem spot on, but there are still those that you wonder WTF?

I still buy the card and not the number assigned. It still blows me away that cards are not being purchased for their actual merit, rather the purchase is based on that number on the label.

[LincolnVT]

Originally Posted by Santo10Fan

I actually just bought an old PSA holder off ebay, not pre-war tho. Looked like the grade was spot on.

What card are you going to put in it? Just kidding. Wouldn’t surprise me if people were actually selling empty holders on eBay these days.

[hcv123]

So we'll start with which one of these cards is in better condition (heads up - they are both high grade)? Clemente 1/2 or Clemente 3/4. I'll expand with the reveal and the relevance to the OP after a few guesses.

[bnorth]

These are about as old as it gets for Beckett. They are the 5th and 7th cards they graded in testing. Nice looking pair of 5s.

[JollyElm]

The cropping is different on those two Clementes. Is that a factor here?

[Hxcmilkshake]

Originally Posted by hcv123

So we'll start with which one of these cards is in better condition (heads up - they are both high grade)? Clemente 1/2 or Clemente 3/4. I'll expand with the reveal and the relevance to the OP after a few guesses.

3/4 but they seem really close

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[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by Leon

TPGs have tightened their standards over time. But that doesn't mean some older slabbed cards are over graded. Many are but some aren't.

I think this should warrant a 2.5!


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Nice looking Weaver Card

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

Nice looking Weaver Card

+1 I love that particular background color on the Obaks!

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

+1 I love that particular background color on the Obaks!

This 1911 Obak of Skeels also has a similar multi-tone green background as the Weaver. And probably would cost a lot less.

Brian (and to revert to the topic at hand, in relation to this card the only holder that is old, somewhat, is me)

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

This 1911 Obak of Skeels also has a similar multi-tone green background as the Weaver. And probably would cost a lot less.

Brian (and to revert to the topic at hand, in relation to this card the only holder that is old, somewhat, is me)

Good to know Brian, thank you.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Good to know Brian, thank you.

1911 Koestner has the same background

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

1911 Koestner has the same background

Thanks, Phil. This is such a nice looking set, maybe I'll have to start collecting it.... (not my card)