Has anyone had ANY kind of success selling cards in a Facebook Group??

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Tabe

I'm in a football group that is extremely active.

A post/photo like that would get shredded. It's low effort, doesn't show the cards well, isn't well-lit, and has a giant flash hiding one of the cards.

When you say they're treating you like a newb, what - specifically - are they saying? What are you doing or saying that's making people say those things?

That was just a rough idea pic. For individual cards, I would obviously use my scanner. Front and back. My question is, at what price point are you pricing raw cards at??? Are you predicting what they would grade and knocking a little bit off?

[Deertick]

You can price several ways:
1) Look at a comparable graded, Subtract grading fees then 10-20% OR
2) Look at what the lower end of eBay sales (incl shipping) for comparable condition and adjust as you see fit OR
3) Reference GM sales and multiply by .7

All 3 methods should get you in a ballpark range for raw.

I really don't GAFF about graded cards, but the one thing is that they are far easier to price. If you are targeting buyers who are looking to grade, you'll probably have to come down even more for them.

I recently had this convo:
Buyer: (offers 1/2 asking on a NMMT card)
Me: Sorry, but it's very fairly priced.
Buyer: Well after PSA fees, it would have to grade a 9 for it to be worth it.
Me:
Buyer: I really like the card

I sold it later that night to someone else.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Deertick

You can price several ways:
1) Look at a comparable graded, Subtract grading fees then 10-20% OR
2) Look at what the lower end of eBay sales (incl shipping) for comparable condition and adjust as you see fit OR
3) Reference GM sales and multiply by .7

All 3 methods should get you in a ballpark range for raw.

I really don't GAFF about graded cards, but the one thing is that they are far easier to price. If you are targeting buyers who are looking to grade, you'll probably have to come down even more for them.

I recently had this convo:
Buyer: (offers 1/2 asking on a NMMT card)
Me: Sorry, but it's very fairly priced.
Buyer: Well after PSA fees, it would have to grade a 9 for it to be worth it.
Me:
Buyer: I really like the card

I sold it later that night to someone else.

LOLOLOL!!! Classic!

[Rich Klein]

A man named Mike Tavener runs a Vintage Football group and that is a well run group

[Vintagedeputy]

I don't sell much, but I sure do buy a lot on Facebook.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

That was just a rough idea pic. For individual cards, I would obviously use my scanner. Front and back. My question is, at what price point are you pricing raw cards at??? Are you predicting what they would grade and knocking a little bit off?

I use ebay for comps.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

That was just a rough idea pic. For individual cards, I would obviously use my scanner. Front and back. My question is, at what price point are you pricing raw cards at??? Are you predicting what they would grade and knocking a little bit off?

Hey, you didn't answer my question. You say you're getting treated like a noob - in what way? What are they saying to you? What are you doing to generate those responses?

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Tabe

Hey, you didn't answer my question. You say you're getting treated like a noob - in what way? What are they saying to you? What are you doing to generate those responses?

They are explaining to me that I can't ask graded card prices if my card isn't graded. I was like....how else are you supposed to determine condition?? I just think they want me to sell my NM cards are VG prices. That just isn't happening.

[Snowman]

I'm in the Harmon's Vintage Facebook group as well. I've sold every card I've posted in there pretty easily (small sample size though. Maybe only a dozen cards?)

I've also sold cards here in the B/S/T.

In my experience, as long as you are asking a little bit below sold ebay comps, provide nice clean photos or preferably scans of the cards, and are selling desirable cards, you'll find a buyer pretty easily. But if you're expecting full eBay comps or above comps because "this is how much I paid for it" or "my cards are nicer than everyone else's cards", or if you provide blurry pics, or if you just offer no pics to begin with, then your chances of selling are very low.

Basically, just be the guy/gal you'd want to buy from, and you'll do just fine.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

They are explaining to me that I can't ask graded card prices if my card isn't graded. I was like....how else are you supposed to determine condition?? I just think they want me to sell my NM cards are VG prices. That just isn't happening.

They're absolutely right. If you're asking for graded card prices for raw cards, well, you're acting like a newb, to be blunt. So, yeah, I can absolutely see why they would say that.

Has nothing to do with wanting you to sell NM cards for VG prices. Fact is, graded cards are worth more than raw. If you want graded card prices, you have to be selling graded cards. Other than that, look up comps on Ebay and see what cards are selling for there and price accordingly.

[riggs336]

There are good groups and a lot not so good. I will say I've made some great virtual friends in some of the groups. And I've bought a few vintage cards at very fair prices.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Tabe

They're absolutely right. If you're asking for graded card prices for raw cards, well, you're acting like a newb, to be blunt. So, yeah, I can absolutely see why they would say that.

Has nothing to do with wanting you to sell NM cards for VG prices. Fact is, graded cards are worth more than raw. If you want graded card prices, you have to be selling graded cards. Other than that, look up comps on Ebay and see what cards are selling for there and price accordingly.

Well...they were trying to show me a card that sold for $40 with a chewed up corner. I was like, you can't even compare the two. You and I both know all PSA 1's are not created equal.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Well...they were trying to show me a card that sold for $40 with a chewed up corner. I was like, you can't even compare the two. You and I both know all PSA 1's are not created equal.

It is your card, and you have the right to sell it for what you want. Just like they have the right not to buy it. Tell them that.

[sbfinley]

I can’t say anything about Facebook because honestly I made a profile one night about 15 years ago in college and never logged back in. But...

*I’ve never had a deal go south here and from my experience if it’s fairly market priced it will sell here.

*On Blowout expect to only get ~85% of market for modern (and expect plenty of offers in the 50%-60% range) but vintage sells fairly quickly at honest prices because they don’t see much there. Put it in the main baseball section, not vintage, most people don’t check there often.

*I joined the Reddit “baseballcards” sub about 6 months ago and have probably done 50 transactions in the time. Haven’t had an issue. Same with Blowout, vintage doesn’t pop up often so buyers often gobble it up quickly if priced fairly.

[Deertick]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Well...they were trying to show me a card that sold for $40 with a chewed up corner. I was like, you can't even compare the two. You and I both know all PSA 1's are not created equal.

Just like some people can't get out of their head buying at 1998 ebay prices, you can't be asking for 2022 graded prices either. Common sense.

And a lot of times I scan cards that literally aren't worth the time it takes (usually as a 'representation' of a lot), because I wouldn't buy based on a blurry pic and somebody's interpretation of mint. eBay is littered with that stuff, but most FB groups will call you out or you'll just get ignored. Because they can.

Don't be *that guy* at the flea market pricing 1986 commons @ $1.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Well...they were trying to show me a card that sold for $40 with a chewed up corner. I was like, you can't even compare the two. You and I both know all PSA 1's are not created equal.

Then respond with sold prices of comparable cards on ebay and be done with it.

[Seven]

I cannot speak for the selling portion of the hobby on facebook, but as someone that has purchased cards off of various facebook groups, I'd be happy to send you a pm with a detailed list of what groups to join.

That being said, I can say that the times I've purchased through facebook card groups, in most cases, it was from people that were actually members on this site. But I'd be more than happy to provide facebook profiles if asked, privately.

I definitely do see a place for it, and have had good experiences, but some sellers are overpriced, IMO and I would rather deal with the people, here on net54.

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

They are explaining to me that I can't ask graded card prices if my card isn't graded. I was like....how else are you supposed to determine condition?? I just think they want me to sell my NM cards are VG prices. That just isn't happening.

They're right though. You can't get graded card prices for raw cards. Even if you have a very high def scan of the card, and if it looks NM in the scans, the best you'll probably get is around EX-MT prices for it if it's raw. That's just how it works in these communities. PSA is consistently and reliably undergrading cards now. If you send in a NM vintage card, you can expect it to come back in a 5 or 6 holder today. It sucks, but it is what it is. Also, some flaws aren't visible in scans. And sometimes perfectly good cards get rejected by the grading companies for no apparent reason. The buyer assumes each of these risks when buying your raw cards. Not to mention grading itself is expensive nowadays. If you want graded NM pricing for your cards, you're gong to have to get out graded. Otherwise, you're just wasting everyone's time, including your own.

It's different at shows where someone can closely examine the card in hand before buying it. You might be able to get a bit more there, but you still won't get graded comp prices. However, if you find yourself thinking that your cards are NM, and the feedback you're getting from buyers is that they think it's only VG-EX, you should probably invest more time closely examining graded cards.

I'm not saying you're guilty of each, or any, of these things, but I do think these are helpful guidelines for a lot of sellers. I see people making these mistakes constantly. The majority of sellers in fact. I just ignore their listings and move on. Most buyers do.