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Old 03-12-2022, 07:45 PM
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The truth and what hobby publications insist on putting out is rarely one and the same .
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Old 03-13-2022, 06:19 AM
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Cliff & I have worked diligently on other years & series that contain SPs in order to establish the slit print patterns. Some are easier than others to recreate.


For example, we completed several series from 1962, 1963, and 1965, the 5th series from 1966, a couple series from 1968, and are currently working on a couple series from 1969, but the 6th series in 1965, 1966, and 1967 are difficult because we have found only a limited amount of uncut or sufficiently miscut material.

For 1962, the SPs in print guides aligned, but certainly in 1965, they do not. Perhaps one day, the guides will wise up.
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Old 03-14-2022, 01:26 PM
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For 1962, the SPs in print guides aligned, but certainly in 1965, they do not. Perhaps one day, the guides will wise up.
Only if we create our own I'd say.

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Working on 1966 Topps set……so this was a great read, great work on the recreation guys
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Old 03-13-2022, 06:35 AM
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These posts remind me I need to ask these general questions - 1) how do we know the difference between slit As and Bs when looking at any given 11x12 half sheet? 2) When initially printed, slits A and B of any series were attached down the middle, forming essentially a single 22x12 full sheet with a wide white "gutter" down the middle, and they were cut vertically along this "gutter" and fed individually into a cutting machine?

Thanks - I've started compiling my own collection of sheet images and these answers, particularly about which is A and which is B will help. I have 3 half-sheets from 1978, and each is clearly marked along one of the vertical margins "slit A" or "slit B", but it seems that in many cases this information is not present on sample sheets or images we have of older sheets.
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Old 03-13-2022, 12:34 PM
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These posts remind me I need to ask these general questions - 1) how do we know the difference between slit As and Bs when looking at any given 11x12 half sheet? 2) When initially printed, slits A and B of any series were attached down the middle, forming essentially a single 22x12 full sheet with a wide white "gutter" down the middle, and they were cut vertically along this "gutter" and fed individually into a cutting machine?

Thanks - I've started compiling my own collection of sheet images and these answers, particularly about which is A and which is B will help. I have 3 half-sheets from 1978, and each is clearly marked along one of the vertical margins "slit A" or "slit B", but it seems that in many cases this information is not present on sample sheets or images we have of older sheets.
You are right, kevvyg1026 and I refer to the two random Slits as A or B or 1 and 2 just to differentiate them, there is usually no way of knowing which one is actually A and which one is actually B.
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You are right, kevvyg1026 and I refer to the two random Slits as A or B or 1 and 2 just to differentiate them, there is usually no way of knowing which one is actually A and which one is actually B.
You need actual half sheets or remnants to possibly ID the actual slit. Topps had them marked A and B by the printer but I'm not sure when that started and you need some luck to find those markings in the margins.

And the */** markings seems to start with 1971 baseball, so no help there.
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I will deem this thread great if we ever get the sellers to use it and stop fantasizing that Grant Jackson is a SSP with a 10x premium in low grade .
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Great effort by all involved
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Old 03-25-2023, 08:27 PM
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Ever since the 1966 Topps 7th Series sheet layout was finished in this thread 18 months ago I have suspected there was a flaw in the final layout but I wasn't going to say anything until I found proof otherwise. I finally found a severely miscut Art Mahaffey on eBay last night that shows him above John Sullivan rather than Andre Rodgers, it has been my belief that Mahaffey and Mike Cuellar who are side by side on a 3x row needed to be flipped. Since they are both on the same row everything remains the same as to who is a 4x and who is a 3x. The pics show that the two lines on the back match up perfectly with Sullivan and the bulge in the Sullivan box matches the bulge on the card on the Mahaffey miscut. Andre Rodgers has a much larger stat box and is not a match at all for the card under Mahaffey. ETA another factor is the team banner under Mahaffey on the miscut is yellow rather than the pinkish red of a Pirates team banner.
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Old 03-31-2023, 12:09 PM
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Cliff---thanks for pointing that out. I made the change in my records.Appreciate it!
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You need actual half sheets or remnants to possibly ID the actual slit. Topps had them marked A and B by the printer but I'm not sure when that started and you need some luck to find those markings in the margins.

And the */** markings seems to start with 1971 baseball, so no help there.
I found 20 miscut 1966 high numbers where you can see the card to the left, having issues loading pics. Craig
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Old 04-26-2025, 10:20 PM
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I found 20 miscut 1966 high numbers where you can see the card to the left, having issues loading pics. Craig
Awesome! Do any of them conflict with what we have?
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Here are the 1966 Topps 7th Series miscuts that new member Buckeye1 has to contribute to the thread.
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